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airedog 02-27-2011 06:13 PM

What's up with IGFA?
 
Why can't ANYONE see what the world records are?? That should be available to the residents of the world that the records apply to.....they don't OWN the record!!! I went to their site, and you must PAY to see world records!! Isn't it enough that they profit from their museum, t-shirts, videos, etc.

Who appointed them the paid keepers of MY world??

(just venting)

Oh Kay II 02-27-2011 06:19 PM

[quote=John Malloy;3566296]Why can't ANYONE see what the world records are?? That should be available to the residents of the world that the records apply to.....they don't OWN the record!!! I went to their site, and you must PAY to see world records!! Isn't it enough that they profit from their museum, t-shirts, videos, etc.

Who appointed them the paid keepers of MY world??

(just venting)[/quote

X2 more of the same...what happened to freedom of info act??....finish the job 11/2012......:mad:

First Light 02-27-2011 07:03 PM

For John: their members appointed them keepers of YOUR record.

For Ok Kay II: nothing has happened to freedom of info act.

The IGFA is a membership organization.

Like THT, you can view "most" of the information on this website, but not all without joining. The IGFA is the same - you can view most of the information on their website, but not all without joining.

You have both paid to receive all of the benefits of this website, and you will have to do the same if you want to receive all of the benefits of the IGFA's website.

BubbaBert 02-27-2011 08:13 PM

so if I land a world record and don't belong to IGFA, I cant view it? or my friends when I brag? That would really really SUCK!

Shortfin19seventy 02-27-2011 11:39 PM

Well, surprisingly, I have not possessed a world record catch. :grin:

So do you have to be a member to submit a catch for a record?

lemaymiami 02-28-2011 05:47 AM

Membership in the IGFA costs about $40 a year... No, you don't have to be a member to submit a record application... But without a membership, how would you know whether a given fish is larger than an existing record in that line class? How would you know how to submit that application and whether the rules (which are pretty specific about tackle and what you can and can't do if you're going to qualify) were followed from hookup to boatside? The most valuable thing that comes with that annual membership (to me ) is the annual record book that is THE bible for those that chase records.

Anyone that thinks that "it should be free" is kidding themselves. I can remember when the IGFA was a much smaller outfit with a heckuva lot less overhead, but that's just not the case today.

Venture34 02-28-2011 10:40 AM

World Records are really IGFA world records, and it costs money to maintain standards and collect data. Freedom of information does not apply...

fish factory 02-28-2011 10:44 AM

A slight mis-direct....

We've been to IGFA in Dania a couple of times. Great building and tour.
Frankly, the place has been a little un-kept or dingy both times we were
there....some displays not working, IMO, not up to IGFA standards...

anyone know wazz up.

airedog 02-28-2011 11:15 AM

"No, you don't have to be a member to submit a record application... But without a membership, how would you know whether a given fish is larger than an existing record in that line class?"

EXACTLY!

I disagree that it is ok to consider "WORLD RECORDS" a proprietary secret. I am not saying that the IGFA does not do good things, as far as scientific study, conservation and education. I can see charging for a book of what the "rules" are. We need standards for world records as far as weight classes, leeader length, hook configuration, even species. But go to their website. Doesn't look like they are exactly hurting financially. They have pages of "Corporate Sponsors", and solicit for "Million Dollar" sponsors.
The IGFA should remember it is a non-profit organization. They are partially what they are today because of the record-keeping function that we the people have entrusted to them, and that they accepted as a duty. The IGFA should consider giving back to the people by making the complete world records available. I don't think I am "kidding myself" when I say it will increase their web traffic substantially, and make more people receptive to donating.

BubbaBert 02-28-2011 01:22 PM

who do you go to if you want to know if you just landed a world record catch?

NJVector 02-28-2011 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by lemaymiami (Post 3566978)
Membership in the IGFA costs about $40 a year... No, you don't have to be a member to submit a record application... But without a membership, how would you know whether a given fish is larger than an existing record in that line class? How would you know how to submit that application and whether the rules (which are pretty specific about tackle and what you can and can't do if you're going to qualify) were followed from hookup to boatside? The most valuable thing that comes with that annual membership (to me ) is the annual record book that is THE bible for those that chase records.

Anyone that thinks that "it should be free" is kidding themselves. I can remember when the IGFA was a much smaller outfit with a heckuva lot less overhead, but that's just not the case today.

Actually, you do. The $40 review fee becomes a membership fee if you're not a member. My son is a current smallfry recordholder and we had to up to a family membership when his application went in.

As to freedom of information- that's just nutty, the FOI act applies to public information. Records maintained by the IGFA aren't public, they're private.

The records are the IGFA's "carrot" that they use to get you to join and what makes people pony up the money that they use for all of their programs.

I'm not saying everyone has to join, but looking at what I spend on fishing every year bitching about $40 for something so worthwhile is just not intellectually honest. I blow $250 every year on lures I lose before putting them in the boat.

Miss Trial 02-28-2011 03:41 PM

They do not maintain "world record[s]", they maintain IGFA world records which have a bunch of rules that apply to them to qualify. IF you do not want to pay them, you do not have to submit to them.

As for seeing them without being a member. You can download the igfa iphone app. They are all on there.

BubbaBert 02-28-2011 07:05 PM

so I don't have a problem with the $40, but this tread started me thinking and nobody has answered yet; who do I call when I come back to the dock with what I think is a new record fish?

DrJim 02-28-2011 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by Miss Trial (Post 3568491)
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As for seeing them without being a member. You can download the igfa iphone app. They are all on there.

There you go, problem solved.

I honestly would have no interest in submitting any catch to the igfa unless there was some monetary reason (ie I was a pro fisherman or a guide that needed the exposure etc). Otherwise it is a self-aggrandizing process that I want no part of, especially the line class records...who cares?

First Light 02-28-2011 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by BubbaBert (Post 3568063)
who do you go to if you want to know if you just landed a world record catch?

Any IGFA member - and there are lots of um on here, and we all have access to the records.

Lots of members in LA also - check at your marina or at the marina where you purchase fuel or have work done, or with a fishing club, or at a tackle shop, etc. You might be surprised to find members that you did not know were members - who will have a copy of the WR book and access to the records on the website. :thumbsup:

lemaymiami 03-01-2011 05:46 AM

For anyone who thinks they've a possible world record fish to submit - just contact the IGFA directly.. They actually have reps around the world in the darnedest places that can help you find certified scales and assist you at every step of the process...

Personal note.... the only fish I've ever caught that was a potential world record, an African Pompano, was taken roughly ten years before that specie was listed with the IGFA... When they finally listed them it was ten more years before anyone posted one bigger than mine (sigh). It was a 35lb african taken on 15lb line -- off of a fishing pier (the old Lake Worth pier, where more than one world record was set, if I remember correctly).

Lemke 03-03-2011 11:21 AM

Try this link...

http://www.igfa.org/Records/World-Re...st.aspx?LC=ATR


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