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Old 02-20-2011, 07:11 PM
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I have lost more fish on this 40 lb Power Pro Spectra red line than I care to admit. I intially spooled all nine of my trolling/downrigger rods last spring. I followed all the manufacturers suggestions with leaders and pre spooling with mono at the core. After loosing so many fish I double checked verything and reduced the drag on my reels. finally I did some breaking strength test with a fish scale. Well, one of my 1500 yd spools that had line on it broke at 12 lbs! The other spool with new line on it yet broke at 24 lbs tension.

So, now I call Power Pro who is Shimano and they tell me I am the only one that they have heard of with this problem. But, they tell me to send in the spools with what is left and they will take a look. Two weeks later I get one spool and a day later another spool. One spool from S Carolina and the other from California. I test these two and the one from SC breaks at 12 lbs and the one from Cal breaks at 24 lbs again.

I call back and they can not believe that so, they are sending me a return label.

I really question the quality control at Power Pro Shimano factory called Innovative Textiles. After looking around the internet I find another thread at
http://www.sportfishermen.com/board/...gth-31848.html with similar problems.

I pulled off all this braided and went back to 25 lb mono for trolling. I landed a 24 lb Barracuda the other day with no problem. I know if the braided would have been on I would have lost him.

Anyone having similar problems? Or, has anyone tested their braided line with a fish scale. I have checked my other spin cast rod 15 lb (other manufacturer) braided lines and they break very close to their rated value except for some Berkley floro 30lb that broke at 14lb.

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Old 02-20-2011, 07:30 PM
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No.... I have 40 and no issues. Is the line breaking at the knot or in the middle?
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Old 02-20-2011, 07:34 PM
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No.... I have 40 and no issues. Is the line breaking at the knot or in the middle?
In the middle. Knots hold perfect and I have done the tension break test mulitple times with same results.
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Old 02-20-2011, 07:39 PM
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I had alot of break offs one year but my braid was 3 years old. Now I know to change it either every season or every 2 seasons
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How are u testing? I've heard similar stories with power pro a few years ago. So I hope it has nothing to do with shimano.
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Originally Posted by Terminator Tackle View Post
I had alot of break offs one year but my braid was 3 years old. Now I know to change it either every season or every 2 seasons
Was it Power Pro? Did you ever check any of your lines with a tension check to see if they would break at their ratings? I never did until two weeks ago. Now I will never put on anything until I do the test. If it fails way below the rated value it goes back to the store I bought it from.
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How are u testing? I've heard similar stories with power pro a few years ago.
Two leader knots at both ends. put one end on the door knob and the other end connected to a turn buckle with a fish scale connected to it. Then I pull with a slow constant pull until she breaks. The knots or loops never break.
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Old 02-20-2011, 08:24 PM
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That's a definite issue then!
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I have power pro on all of my inshore setups (more than I care to count), offshore setups have momoi diamond braid.

Out of the hundreds of power pro spools I've used, 1 of them was exactly how you described, and maybe a little worse. I ended up breaking it 3 times just spooling a reel up. I think it was 50 lb. That spool was also sloppy, with gobs of the coating stuck to the line, fusing sections together on some parts.

I don't think you're crazy, just really unlucky.

99% of the time, if you're having problems, you're not tying the correct knots, not using the correct length leader for fish/structure, and not retying when the line's getting worn.

The other 1%, might just be shtty luck
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Power Pro is garbage. They weave in new strands whenever one of the 7 or whatever strands it's made of runs out, so if two or more run out near each other, you get WAY less than the recording strength.

Then they try to under-report the break strength and the diameter to make up for it. I've had 65# break WAY up the line on small 25-30# sailfish with 8 pounds of drag, then turned right around and caught them on 20# Ande mono, and couldn't understand it! I bet you do some kind of fishing with lots of line out, right? That multiplies the odds that you will get more than one "new strand" section out.

If there's any way to get your $$$ back, do so and get some better line. FINS is better and so is Spiderwire, Also, believe it or not, I've had MUCH better results with the chinese stuff off of E-Bay being reliable than I have with Power Pro.

By the way, I've been told by industry folks that the Power Pro OVER 80 or 100# test is made differently and is better, but i don't know for sure. I DO know for sure that the 65# and the 50# are best used as garbage rather than fishing line.
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Originally Posted by Shortfin19seventy View Post
I have power pro on all of my inshore setups (more than I care to count), offshore setups have momoi diamond braid.

Out of the hundreds of power pro spools I've used, 1 of them was exactly how you described, and maybe a little worse. I ended up breaking it 3 times just spooling a reel up. I think it was 50 lb. That spool was also sloppy, with gobs of the coating stuck to the line, fusing sections together on some parts.

I don't think you're crazy, just really unlucky.

99% of the time, if you're having problems, you're not tying the correct knots, not using the correct length leader for fish/structure, and not retying when the line's getting worn.

The other 1%, might just be shtty luck
Shortfin,

What lb braided test are you running on your inshore?
Have you physically tested your momoi diamond braid? If you get a chance to do a scale test I would like to know how that brand does on a tensile pull test compared to its lb rating. When you get a spare moment let me know.


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Originally Posted by Jah Son View Post
Power Pro is garbage. They weave in new strands whenever one of the 7 or whatever strands it's made of runs out, so if two or more run out near each other, you get WAY less than the recording strength.

Then they try to under-report the break strength and the diameter to make up for it. I've had 65# break WAY up the line on small 25-30# sailfish with 8 pounds of drag, then turned right around and caught them on 20# Ande mono, and couldn't understand it! I bet you do some kind of fishing with lots of line out, right? That multiplies the odds that you will get more than one "new strand" section out.

If there's any way to get your $$$ back, do so and get some better line. FINS is better and so is Spiderwire, Also, believe it or not, I've had MUCH better results with the chinese stuff off of E-Bay being reliable than I have with Power Pro.

By the way, I've been told by industry folks that the Power Pro OVER 80 or 100# test is made differently and is better, but i don't know for sure. I DO know for sure that the 65# and the 50# are best used as garbage rather than fishing line.

Funny you should mention FINS as that is what I just started to use on the inshore reels and it tested 2 lb less on a tension break than the 15 lb test package said. Which I would expect all brands to do.


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just for reference for me



this is the stuff yeah?

I got it on two of my shimano combos and havent had a problem yet all be it 8lb rated.

On the other hand the 20Lb fins dyneema was shithouse. broken many times and i am going back to mono on my surf combo's
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Other than spinning, i use 65# braid for bottom rigs with mono top shot. Yet to have a failure on powerpro, but i have heard of the 30-50# being questionable.

I do use the 30# on my revo for inshore and freshwater fishing and no breaks yet.

Maybe i'm just not fishing enough!

I also am impressed with the feel of the "chinese" braid i picked up on ebay. Spooled a penn battle with the 80# with fluoro topshot on a 100# vertical jigging rod.

Can't wait till april to give it a test!
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Originally Posted by MRGONET View Post
Other than spinning, i use 65# braid for bottom rigs with mono top shot. Yet to have a failure on powerpro, but i have heard of the 30-50# being questionable.

I do use the 30# on my revo for inshore and freshwater fishing and no breaks yet.

Maybe i'm just not fishing enough!

I also am impressed with the feel of the "chinese" braid i picked up on ebay. Spooled a penn battle with the 80# with fluoro topshot on a 100# vertical jigging rod.

Can't wait till april to give it a test!
MRGO,

How about trying a tensile break on your 65 lb if you have a fish scale that gets up to that weight?

I am tempted to tell Power Pro not to send the 40 lb as replacement but a higher test 65lb.


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Originally Posted by Fish13 View Post
just for reference for me



this is the stuff yeah?

I got it on two of my shimano combos and havent had a problem yet all be it 8lb rated.

On the other hand the 20Lb fins dyneema was shithouse. broken many times and i am going back to mono on my surf combo's
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Here is the picture of one spool from Cal plant.
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The good news is they seem to have good customer service and support.
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I only use Jerry Brown braid on my boat and have found the quality to be of the highest standard and I have yet to lose a fish to defective line. The quality of line on your reel will often determine whether you experience success or failure in the game. I am willing to pay the few extra dollars for top quality as I want my customers to have every chance at landing that fish of their dreams. Finally, Jerry Brown line is made in the USA by Americans which is something I appreciate in these days of offshore manufacturing.

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The good news is they seem to have good customer service and support.
Yes, so far they have been good about swapping it out. I just wish they could somehow check the tensile strength before shipping me another 3000 yds. I paid to send the first two back and they have so far paid to send the other stuff back to me.
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cool thanks USAF1975.

Im still torn between fireline and mono for my fishing requirements as i only fish in 30metres of water..
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