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Old 02-19-2011, 06:37 PM
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What do these pictures show? This is 400 lb shock leader that we use hi-speed wahoo trolling. Main line to trolling weight to shock leader to leader on the lure. We cleared lines to reel a fish in and when this one came in, this is what we saw. If it is hard to tell, it is mono skinned and the curly stuff you see is mono still attached. I guess you could say it was shaved off but again, it is still attached.

Tell me what happened to cause this. I have definitive proof of exactly what happened but I am going to give a day to get everyones thoughts. This isn't to prove who is right or wrong but my crew had opinions of what happened and then we found proof. More of an exercise in fun. What do you think? Proof comes Monday morning.






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Old 02-19-2011, 06:46 PM
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Wahoo teeth!
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Old 02-19-2011, 06:51 PM
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Sorry, let me fix the pics.
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Old 02-19-2011, 06:53 PM
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Sure? Wahoo teeth? Remember, this is the shock leader, a long ways from the lure. This was on a flat line. One thought is that the wire line on the other side got mixed up with this one and did this. This shock leader is approx 20 ft long and the damage you see was on at least 10 feet of it. Keep em coming.
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Old 02-19-2011, 07:03 PM
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No wahoo teeth I don't think. It would have easily cut through the 400 mono. Only thing I can think of is that maybe the shock leader hit something floating on the surface that skinned it since it was being pulled fast.

Otherwise I got not clue!!!!
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Probably hit the trolling sinker above the shock leader and slid down in his mouth.
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it was a smaller wahoo and and large billfish was chasing it and the bill slapped the leader... a little far fetched but could have happen
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Old 02-19-2011, 09:00 PM
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Bit the weight and slid down. That's my guess.
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Old 02-19-2011, 09:26 PM
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Check your trolling weights for tooth marks, guarantee you will find some. Wahoo hit the weight and the shock leader ran through its mouth and got shaved. Happens fairly often.
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Old 02-19-2011, 10:29 PM
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Looks like a billfish scar.
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Old 02-20-2011, 05:56 AM
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We lost a 3' bar last year up here in NE with 150#. Assumed it was a small wahoo as we get them up here. Could have been a small mako too I guess. I have had bluefish do the same thing to lighter leaders while bass fishing.
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Rubbed it on the bottom of another boat?
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Old 02-20-2011, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by signmansez View Post
Looks like a billfish scar.


I had a small marlin swipe at a bait once and when I reeled it in to check, what you have is exactly what I saw.
Could be one had a go at your trolling weight.
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I had a small Mako hit a bird while trolling, and that's what my 200lb mono looked like. I figured since you were trolling for Wahoo, It did the same....
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No reason to wait for the answer. My thoughts were that we crossed lines and that is what caused it. I have seen billfish do this. Upon seeing the shock leader shaved like that, the very first thing I checked was the trolling lead and I did not see any marks on it.

We didn't clean the fish until the next day. As we were cleaning one of the wahoo, we pulled what is in the following pic out of its mouth. Yes, that is mono shavings so it looks like the wahoo got the mono in its mouth and shaved the line without cutting. Personally, I had never seen that before and I have done an awful lot of wahoo fishing.

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Awesome that you hooked and caught him! I don't know how many time I've had my trolling leads nipped and NOT caught the bastard 'Hoo that did it!
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Always something new and crazy happening out there... Keeps everyone on their toes
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I hope I can catch the last one that ate my 48oz bait that looked exactly like a trolling sinker.
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I don't think I said that the wahoo was not caught on the line with the skinned shock leader, he dropped back and hit the shotgun. I guess getting a mouthful or lead or mono didn't bother him.
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Old 02-21-2011, 03:02 PM
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maybe a groovy in the roller/guides
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