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Old 02-15-2011, 09:31 AM
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As title says i have a big 1900 yard spool of 70lb Daiwa Boat Braid and i am replacing my mono, but id like to save time and money and also extend the life of the majority of the line. Im thinking 300 yards of mono top shot on how much braid? I typically high speed wahoo troll and occasionally chunk for tuna. I want shock absorption while high speed trolling.
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Old 02-15-2011, 10:06 AM
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How many tiagras are you looking to spool? If you are trying to save maoney I would divede that spool up by the number of tiagras and put however much mono is needed on top to fill the reel.

I have my 30 wides spooled with 700 yds of 80lb suffix braid and 100yds of 80 diamond on top.

A 50 wide will hold a ton of 70lb daiwa and with a 300yd topshot of 80 I think you would only be able to do maybe 2 reels with that 1900yd spool.
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Old 02-15-2011, 11:08 AM
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thx.....the other issue is that i wanted to put some of the braid on my avet 50w which is a bit smaller. Looks like ill just have to stick to the tiagras.
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Old 02-15-2011, 12:12 PM
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That depends on the mono topshot. 50lb, 80lb etc

Consider this.
80lb hollow JB is .018
80lb Boat braid is slightly smaller at .017
not 100% sure but i think 70lb boat braid is .016

A Tiagra 50w will hold 1300 yards of 80 JB hollow line one (@.018) with minmal 30ft topshot.
That said, I would think you could get 900 to 1000 yards of 70lb boat braid on a 50 wide Tiagra with room for a 300 yard topshot of 50 mono.

Also consider with Diawa Boat Braid i believe the # test on the package is it's actual breaking strength or very close to it. Unlike some of the other braided lines like JB which test out much higher then the pound test raiting on the package.
If you used your 70 BB with a 80 lb mono topshot your braid will likely break before your mono topshot.
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I have 100 yards of top shot and a filled up my spools with braid so that the top shot "topped" them off.
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im going with 50 or 60lb test momoi mono top shot......any difference between Momoi hi catch and diamond besides price? I wont be fighting any 500lb blue fin with these so i usually calibrate my 50w reels to 25/40lb at strike/max. But ill need to think about that.
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Originally Posted by On The Edge 1 View Post
That depends on the mono topshot. 50lb, 80lb etc

Consider this.
80lb hollow JB is .018
80lb Boat braid is slightly smaller at .017
not 100% sure but i think 70lb boat braid is .016

A Tiagra 50w will hold 1300 yards of 80 JB hollow line one (@.018) with minmal 30ft topshot.
That said, I would think you could get 900 to 1000 yards of 70lb boat braid on a 50 wide Tiagra with room for a 300 yard topshot of 50 mono.

Also consider with Diawa Boat Braid i believe the # test on the package is it's actual breaking strength or very close to it. Unlike some of the other braided lines like JB which test out much higher then the pound test raiting on the package.
If you used your 70 BB with a 80 lb mono topshot your braid will likely break before your mono topshot.
thats the great detailed technical info i look for.....thx
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im going with 50 or 60lb test momoi mono top shot......any difference between Momoi hi catch and diamond besides price? I wont be fighting any 500lb blue fin with these so i usually calibrate my 50w reels to 25/40lb at strike/max. But ill need to think about that.
Momoi's Hi-Catch Nylon Monofilament has low memory, is soft and flexible while maintaining a high tensile strength to diameter ratio.

MOMOI DIAMOND HI-CATCH Is harder and stiffer, it is also larger in dia then most other lines of the same pound test. However it offers higher abrasion resistance, and higher then stated pound test rating.
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Old 02-15-2011, 04:38 PM
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I don't want to confuse things since you already have the 70# braid, but on a 50W for high speed wahoo trolling, I'd use 130# braid with a 150 to 200 yard top shot of 100# mono. That would give you approximately 800 yards of total capacity. Rigging anything smaller than that is asking from trouble from a big wahoo.
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that is probably true.......if we get down to the braid we will be chasing the fish on the bow of my cc and have to back down on the drag i guess
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My 50w Avets holds 942 yards of 130lb Sufix braid and 100 yard top shot of 100lb Mono
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Old 02-17-2011, 03:06 PM
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My 50W's have about 800-900 yds of 100# hollow-core backing with a 300-350yd topshot of Momoi Diamond 80# (breaks around 106 lbs). That setup still gives me plenty of room to add a 25' 250# wind-on for swording.

I think if you turn and chase a big Hoo you're gonna lose them 95% of the time. A split second of reduced tension and one head shake is all it takes. Unless you're trolling without sinkers...then you would probably have a better chance at keeping them hooked up. I wouldn't worry about getting spooled unless you're planning a trip to San Sal, but over there a 50W is useless no matter what you spool it with.
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