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Old 02-13-2011, 06:45 AM
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Mine work but don't look as good as what I've seen. Video or help on how to do this knot correctly?
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Old 02-13-2011, 06:47 AM
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Particularly with braid, not pretty!
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Old 02-13-2011, 06:51 AM
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Where exactly is your knot looking "funny" or not right when you are done tying it? I don't know of any videos that really show a good description of this knot but if the mono at the double end is a little curly after you are done tying it then you need to lube it up with more spit when drawing your wraps tight. It gets curly b/c the mono is getting too hot when the knot is being pulled tight.

A few more questions that might help get some answers.

How long are you trying to make the bimini?
How many initial twists are you doing?
Is the double end twisting up on itself after the knot is completed?
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Old 02-13-2011, 07:49 AM
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If what you are trying to accomplish is a loop at the end of your line you should try a 6 turn surgeons loop. Never had one fail and much easier to tie.
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Old 02-13-2011, 08:28 AM
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or a spider hitch
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Old 02-13-2011, 08:32 AM
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Here's a good link: How to Make a Bimini Twist in Spectra: Start with 70 Twists, Use the Reel Handle for a Small Loop.

Also, next time you spool, think about hollow-weave line. Spliced end-loops are very strong, here's a link comparing them: Hollow Spectra Techniques: How to Make Mainline Loops

As far as strength goes, a Surgeon's Loop reduces the strength of a line by about 40% (like most other regular knots). One way around that, say you're using 60# hollow braid: splice a few yards of 100# hollow braid to the end of the 60# and tie knots in the 100#.

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Old 02-13-2011, 10:49 AM
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Get yourself a spool of 30 or 50 lb line, which IMO is the easiest to work with, sit in a chair, and practice, practice, practice. That is the best way to learn any knot.
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Old 02-13-2011, 04:08 PM
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Where I see a lot of ugly biminis is in the "back" or "down" wrap after the loop has been spread and the twist tightened. The line really wants to get down to the "Y" very quickly, but don't let it. Put a ton of tension on the tag end and hold it at a slight upward angle. That will make the line lay as tight together as possible as it works its way back down and give as many wraps as possible on the way.
As stated above, there is no substitute for practice. For years now I've had a harder time tying a uni than a bimini.
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Old 02-13-2011, 06:33 PM
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How tight together the down wrap is is dependent on the angle of the tag end when pushing the loop up. Find the right angle and the down wrap will look professional and the twist tight and functional. The bimini is easy. Breaking strength is 100% of the line strength. Got to love it.
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Old 02-13-2011, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SageBoy View Post
If what you are trying to accomplish is a loop at the end of your line you should try a 6 turn surgeons loop. Never had one fail and much easier to tie.
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Old 02-13-2011, 06:56 PM
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we fished bimini's for the past 12 years, went away from them recently and don't miss them.

Getting the bimini twist nice, tight, and neat takes time. The best way I found to tie it was take the line down under both feet and back over you knees. Then you can spread your knees out and to tighten the twist. Remmeber, the bitter end is the steering wheel, the angle you hold it to knot will determine how tight your wraps are...

If you are fishing roller eyes, make sure you get your biminis tight or have big eyes. you wouldn't be the first guy to get one hung in a roller and pop off a fish.
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Originally Posted by WildLines View Post
we fished bimini's for the past 12 years, went away from them recently and don't miss them.

Getting the bimini twist nice, tight, and neat takes time. The best way I found to tie it was take the line down under both feet and back over you knees. Then you can spread your knees out and to tighten the twist. Remmeber, the bitter end is the steering wheel, the angle you hold it to knot will determine how tight your wraps are...

If you are fishing roller eyes, make sure you get your biminis tight or have big eyes. you wouldn't be the first guy to get one hung in a roller and pop off a fish.
Yep sit down. Wrap each side of the double line on each foot. When you start rolling back, spread your legs. It will be super tight.
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Originally Posted by XpatBubba View Post
or a spider hitch
This is what I use. I am learning-impaired when it comes to a Bimini...I never have been able to tie one that looks as good as a spider hitch.
May not be as good as a Bimini, but I have never had a spider hitch fail on me yet.
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Old 02-14-2011, 05:30 AM
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One thing most don't tell you is that you need to lube the line IMO as you are creating a lot of friction...and then practice.

Here are a bunch of videos, good luck!

http://www.google.com/search?q=how+t...27206efb5b59e1
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The best book I've ever found on knots (including the Bimini Twist) is the one by Mark Sosin and these days he advertises a knot tying video that should sort you out. You can tie a Bimini so tight that it's very small or do it loose and long and have the same strength (the Twist is just rope making technique after all...).

This pic shows a Biminii with a doubled surgeon's loop for heavy fly leaders... I could have tied it much more loosely and gotten the same strength but you have other considerations when you're setting up fly leaders to meet IGFA specs...
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