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Looking for a model downrigger that will hold up to trolling heavy planers down deep. I'm considering the Cannon Uni-Troll 10, will these work for my intended use? Please share what model you guys are running with reviews and also any recommendations you might have.
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we have used one for years now... works fine with up to a #16, (largest planer we have ever tried)
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Thats it? Only 1 person has ever fished using downriggers?
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Use them a lot but never used them with planers only with cannon balls so not much help I don't think;?
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never used planer only balls 14lbs
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Originally Posted by tprice View Post
Use them a lot but never used them with planers only with cannon balls so not much help I don't think;?
Thats plenty of help, what model downrigger are you running? How do you like them? What don't you like about them? Thank you for the comeback.
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Originally Posted by Eyehooker View Post
never used planer only balls 14lbs
Same goes for you Eyehooker. What model are you running?
Old 02-13-2011, 05:15 PM
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Try vector downriggers trantech makes them allus made all metel no plastic heavy duty moter have had all downriggers this one is best google broadlows fishin hole he carrys them ask for charlie he can tell you more.
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Just curious why dont you use the cannon balls?
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Balls work good when trolling slow but the planners word better in my opine when trolling faster.
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Originally Posted by rhagy1 View Post
Just curious why dont you use the cannon balls?
To much kick back. I want something thats gonna dig in that will allow me to better pinpoint where my baits are running while using less line.
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Originally Posted by wahoo wacker View Post
we have used one for years now... works fine with up to a #16, (largest planer we have ever tried)
really? do you reinforce the rod holders with a backing plate? I have my 10's on gunnel mounts but have been hesitant to run the old salty #16 planer on them. Are you using braided line or wire and what pound test? will the planer pull line from the down rigger? Please explain, thanks
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What about those Z wings that I have seen, don't they eliminate blow back for the most part

By way i have two Cannon Uni-troll 10's on my boat but this week I picked up a couple of Mag 10's that are electric. Hope I did the right thing but could not pass up the deal

Only thing is looks like I will have to change out my swivel bases, the ones I bought have a large screw that screws into a block on the swivel base. They also came with mounts that go in the rod holders but I will have to remove my old bases that are permanent and do not want a discolored spot on my boat so guess I will be swapping out bases before I sell the others.

Looking forward to the electric downriggers, I fish solo a lot of time and the manuals can be a lot of work when you get to some trees so I hope this will be easier
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While I have zero experience with planers off downriggers I do fish extensively with cannon balls. I can offer this to you from my time with them. First off if you fish over 50 feet commonly go with electrics. The time and energy you save is ten fold. Get a newer one with short stop on it, push a button and the downrigger automatically stops at the waterline on its way up so you do not need to worry about cranking or stopping it. Cannon offers postive ion control built into their downriggers which some swear by while others call hocus pocus. I like it, seems to work in my application, Cannon offers a real cool option on their high end downrigger which allows bottom tracking with the added option of jigging the ball as the user sets it to. Most newer dowriggers retrieve at 250 fpm while the new Scotty HP's are at 310fpm. Scotty also just introduced digital displays on their new HP's as well. Most newer style downriggers are rated to pull up to 20 pounds. Just remember that no matter if you use manuals or electrics you need to account for blowback, higherspeeds, deeper depths and bigger lures only compound this. Depending on what type of lures and such you are using and the amount of water they cover will dictate how long of booms you need or side tracking weights in order to avoid tangles. Manuals are great, simple to use and economical while the electrics are more efficient and I find nicer to use. I run 4 electrics and have 2 manuals as backups. Both Scotty and Cannon make awesome products however the Cannons have a few options built in which I really like. I have both and think this year I will be going with Cannon for everything. Hope this helps out!
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Just a note for trying to troll faster, deeper with cannonballs. Have you ever tried

the same amount of lead in a pancake weight? I use 10, 12 and 15# lead fish for

salmon slow trolling. I switch to the pancakes when bumping up the speed to

albacore speeds or when the salmon are super deep(500 ft). chris
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200 or 250# braid... from the rod holders, no backing plate. Wont take drag from the downrigger.

really? do you reinforce the rod holders with a backing plate? I have my 10's on gunnel mounts but have been hesitant to run the old salty #16 planer on them. Are you using braided line or wire and what pound test? will the planer pull line from the down rigger? Please explain, thanks
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I use a Penn 600 and 625 manual down riggers with 150' of 300# stainless wire. This gets me down to around 100', which is deep enough for me. I use Old Salty
#8 and #16 planers with no problems trolling 8-10 mph. I still use the cannon balls for very slow trolling.
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I've run Invaders,Walkers,Cannons and Scottys,and Big Jons and all did a decent job.If I had to recommend a particular brand,it would be the Cannons or the Scottys.
Both of these are readily available and parts are esay to get if needed.Either will lift a 20lb weight(better for you salt water guys).I ran four Cannon electrics on my previous boat with very few problems,and currently run four Scotty electrics on my present boat.

I like the extendable boom on the scottys better than Cannons,and I lke the free fall only that Scotty uses to drop the weight.I see no reason to have a power down switch on any down rigger.Scotty also has the fastest retreive speed with all size weights
I have run the heck out of these scottys for the last two years without a single issue.
That being said,I don't think you could go wrong with any of the major brands of riggers.Much of it boils down to personal preference.
Weight style is important to help with blowback.The torpedo style weights have far less blowback than round balls,and for those of you fishing saltwater,with tides and strong currents they are the way to go.

I like the torpedo weights from Atommik in the 15.5 weight They track very good and have minimal blowback

http://www.atommiktrollingflies.com/ttw.htm
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i am really surprised that these downriggers can hold a #16 at speeds approaching 10 mph. I had posted about this before and was pretty much told that i "could" do it but i shouldn't. It seems like several folks here run 16 planers on the uni-troll 10 with gimbal mounts. What the heck, I'll give it a try the next time out!

Just to clarify, is everyone running braid on their downriggers when pulling planers?
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Originally Posted by ginob View Post
Try vector downriggers trantech makes them allus made all metel no plastic heavy duty moter have had all downriggers this one is best google broadlows fishin hole he carrys them ask for charlie he can tell you more.
I was very impressed with the Vectors I owned. They look pretty, too.

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