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Old 02-10-2011, 05:20 PM
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Putting 80# braid with 80# mono backing and leader on my new Penn Battle 8000. Would usually use a uni to uni knot, but I don't want the knot to get caught on the line on the reel when casting or when a big cobia goes for a long run.

Any suggestions for smaller knots to use ?
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Old 02-10-2011, 05:24 PM
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I love this knot for exactly what you are doing. It is low profile and very strong . It is also easy to tie after a go or two.

http://www.netknots.com/html/slim_beauty_knot.html
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Tie a No name or Yucatan knot. Basically a reverse Albright. The knot has a relatively low profile and the tag end doesnt stick out perpendicular to the line so it doesnt get hung in guides.

Here is a Youtube video. I tie mine with 9 wraps to keep it from slipping.

Give it a shot
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I like that one as well. Similar method of tying minus the bimini. The guy narrating in the video sounds like Mark Sosin?
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use a piece of hollow core braid with glue and small serve. there's nothing smaller or stronger.

Just to clarify your putting the braid then mono right?
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[quote=C.J.FLOYD;3526436]use a piece of hollow core braid with glue and small serve. there's nothing smaller or stronger.

Just to clarify your putting the braid then mono right?[/quote

Not sure. Thinking of about 50 yards of mono backing, then 300 yards of braid, with 8-10 feet of either flour or mono leader.
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Originally Posted by C.J.FLOYD View Post
use a piece of hollow core braid with glue and small serve. there's nothing smaller or stronger.

Just to clarify your putting the braid then mono right?
That works great-I use it for all my big game Jerry Brown to mono connections but isnt easy without a serving needle and other tools and would be virtually impossible to do on a boat. So if your connection breaks you need a plan B
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[quote=Captain Crispy;3526458]
Originally Posted by C.J.FLOYD View Post
use a piece of hollow core braid with glue and small serve. there's nothing smaller or stronger.

Just to clarify your putting the braid then mono right?[/quote

Not sure. Thinking of about 50 yards of mono backing, then 300 yards of braid, with 8-10 feet of either flour or mono leader.
You don't need mono backing. The Battle spool has a rubber section for tying braid directly to the spool. No slippage. Use all braid then a mono leader.
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You don't need mono backing. The Battle spool has a rubber section for tying braid directly to the spool. No slippage. Use all braid then a mono leader.
x2 with that, the times of slipping spools is old school, proper spooling there will be no slipping. If its something that has happen to you in the past just put a small piece of gorilla tape on the bare spool it gives the braid something to bite.
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i prefer to thread the mono into hollow core spectra and use the nub and nail knot connection, but a quick, small and very strong knot like the Bob Sands (tony pena) knot works very well too.

x3 for no need for mono backing. go all spectra with short top shot.
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binimi to a bristol
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pr or page ranking knot. Very very strong. When im not using hollow core or just too lazy to splice I tie this knot. Strongest, lowest profile knot I know..can be a bit tricky to tie but youll get the hang of it. Lookit up on you tube..if u need any clarification let me know
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Originally Posted by Captain Crispy View Post
Putting 80# braid with 80# mono backing and leader on my new Penn Battle 8000. Would usually use a uni to uni knot, but I don't want the knot to get caught on the line on the reel when casting or when a big cobia goes for a long run.

Any suggestions for smaller knots to use ?
Nice reel you got. If you load the reel with 60# JB hollow-weave line (actual strength about 90 lbs.) you won't have any knots, won't need mono backing, will have a great casting line and can add leaders by a single loop-to-loop connection. There plenty of info here on rigging spinner with hollow weave. I think you'll find this produces a much better system than a typical 80# mono and 80# solid weave braid.

If you go the 80/80 route, I suggest a PR or Sebile knot for the connection. They're slim, without knots in the mono to hang, and very strong.

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not to change the knot subject,i was just on utube,on knot tying,and noticed the guy tying a uni to uni knot.i would think that if you were making a braid to mono connection using this knot,this would'nt be a good choice,since under a lot of strain the braided line would cut right through the mono.i know this is a popular knot for a lot of fisherman,easy to tie.i prefer the albright or nail knot.what do ya think?
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Originally Posted by 1rider View Post
I love this knot for exactly what you are doing. It is low profile and very strong . It is also easy to tie after a go or two.

http://www.netknots.com/html/slim_beauty_knot.html
This is what I use. It casts well and is very strong. For mono to single braid use 7 turns up and 11 down not 4 up and 4 down as is shown in that illustration.
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Originally Posted by marcus220 View Post
not to change the knot subject,i was just on utube,on knot tying,and noticed the guy tying a uni to uni knot.i would think that if you were making a braid to mono connection using this knot,this would'nt be a good choice,since under a lot of strain the braided line would cut right through the mono.i know this is a popular knot for a lot of fisherman,easy to tie.i prefer the albright or nail knot.what do ya think?
Although the knots you mention are all proven functional knots, they all have the same issue which is that their internal mechanics bend the lines sharply and as a result, all those knots cut the strength of the line by about 40%. That's a lot to give up. The Slim Beauty is about 10% better and is "slim" and castable up to a point. My feeling at 80# and above, the Stop knot of the Slim is too big but that may be a preference.

The PR and Sebile knots are 90%+ strong and are very thin. Wind-on leaders connected by L2L are as near 100% as you can get.

If you're not pushing the envelope, you can use whatever knot goes through the guides but if you're going after big fish on light gear, the right connection makes a big difference.
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Master the Sebile knot. It took me a little wile to get consistent with the "knot," but now it's cake. When tied correctly it has great strength and slides through line guides fairly smoothly.
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Another vote for the Sebile knot. Just watch the video and mimic every step, after you do it a couple times it's really easy. And it goes through the guides better than any other knot I've ever seen.
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You can't beat the Red Phillips imho. Tiny and VERY strong:

http://www.thehulltruth.com/sportfis...best-knot.html

http://www.thehulltruth.com/sportfis...der-braid.html
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