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Old 02-09-2011, 12:17 AM
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I've usually used sabiki rigs to try and jig for runners offshore. Sometimes the sabiki rig works great, but sometimes I can't get them to bite worth a dang. Tipped with squid etc.... I've seen a few boats just toss nets and get them. Any recommendations on which net would be good for this application (brand, mesh size, #/ft)? I'm trying to net them offshore at the oil rigs. Thanks
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Old 02-09-2011, 06:05 AM
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You need a net as big as you can throw. The net needs to weigh at least 1.5lbs per foot and the mesh needs to be 5/8". The large diameter, heavy net with large holes allow the net to sink quickly in the deep water so that the bait can't get out from under the net.
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Old 02-09-2011, 10:05 AM
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I would recomend a Bait Buster cast net. Not as good as a 200$ net but the best net for the money
http://justcastnets.com/index.php?page=baitBuster

I throw a 8 footer here in the chesapeake, but like said before get as big of a net that you can throw.
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Old 02-09-2011, 10:28 AM
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If it were me, I'd buy a good quality cast net. Calusa and Bait Buster nets are good, but most people I know prefer the Black Pearl nets. They're (imo) the best "production" net out there.

The mesh size, and diameter is going to depend on the size of bait that you want to catch and your throwing ability. A 5/8" mesh net is designed to catch baits around 10" long. It will sink faster than a tighter mesh net, but if you're catching smaller baits, you run the risk of gilling them (basically their heads go through the net mesh and their gills get caught up in the mono, causing them serious damage and reducing the time they will stay alive in your well (if you don't kill them right away)). Personally, I think a 3/8" mesh net is about the most versatile net mesh size, but I don't ever target baits larger than 6".

An 8' net is relatively easy to learn how to throw and covers a lot of area. In some areas, you can't legally throw a net larger than a certain diameter, so that's something you might want to check.

The only other thing you might want to consider is buying a cheap cast net and learn how to throw it before buying a good net. That way if you tear up the cheap net, it's no big deal.
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Old 02-09-2011, 11:09 AM
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I like a 3/8" mesh for pilchards, cigar minnows and sardines in up to 20 feet of water and it works great.

I have a 1/2" mesh I use for threadfin herring and ballyhoo in deeper water. I tried it once on some pilchards in an inlet that were holding deeper and I gilled half of them, so a little difference in mesh makes a world of difference.

There are some situations that netting is just too difficult. When water is clear, deep and the baits are one the small side, just sabiki them. It will take you just as much time as plucking all the dead ones out after you gill them in a larger, deep water net.
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Old 02-09-2011, 12:38 PM
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I throw a 10 foot Bait Buster with 5/8" mesh. No complaints and it sinks plenty fast for my targeted bait up to maybe 20-25 feet deep. Keep an eye on calusa's demo/reconditioned nets. Most of the time you can either get an overstocked net or one with a very small hole for about 1/2 price.
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Old 02-09-2011, 04:12 PM
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If it were me, I'd buy a good quality cast net. Calusa and Bait Buster nets are good, but most people I know prefer the Black Pearl nets. They're (imo) the best "production" net out there.

The mesh size, and diameter is going to depend on the size of bait that you want to catch and your throwing ability. A 5/8" mesh net is designed to catch baits around 10" long. It will sink faster than a tighter mesh net, but if you're catching smaller baits, you run the risk of gilling them (basically their heads go through the net mesh and their gills get caught up in the mono, causing them serious damage and reducing the time they will stay alive in your well (if you don't kill them right away)). Personally, I think a 3/8" mesh net is about the most versatile net mesh size, but I don't ever target baits larger than 6".

An 8' net is relatively easy to learn how to throw and covers a lot of area. In some areas, you can't legally throw a net larger than a certain diameter, so that's something you might want to check.

The only other thing you might want to consider is buying a cheap cast net and learn how to throw it before buying a good net. That way if you tear up the cheap net, it's no big deal.
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I am assumming you are talking about deep water, oil rigs. You need a 10'+ with a 1/2" min. mesh with 1.5lb or 2lb per foot, to get the net to sink fast enough. A 8' will never work at 25'+ water depths.
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Old 02-10-2011, 07:02 AM
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Thanks for the suggestion guys. I will be throwing this offshore in about 100-200ft of water trying to net hardtails. So I'm guessing that my best bet would be a 5/8 mesh at 1.5+lb/ft? I'm able to throw a 10 footer and will either look at a 10' or 12' net. I already have about 3 inshore nets for when I'm casting for mullet shrimp greenbacks etc so this one will be an offshore use only net. Is there any other brands I should be giving a look besides the ones recommended up top? Thanks
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Old 02-10-2011, 08:36 AM
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If you are throwing that deep the bigeest and heaviest one you can throw. If it was my money, I would have a custom one made strictly for this use.
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Old 02-10-2011, 08:41 AM
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Sorry guys, I can't imagine hauling in a net full of runners.
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go to: www.oifishingcenter.com and look at a capt brant custom cast net with 2.2 lbs per foot weight
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Old 02-10-2011, 08:15 PM
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Thanks for the suggestions guys. We usually find pods of runners around the rigs swimming in the top 10-20ft column of the water. I figure it would be way easier and more convenient if I could just toss a net and fill the well with about 30 runners or so in a few cast vs having to try and keep the boat in one spot and trying to get them to bite the sabikis while avoiding the hooks getting embedded into my head. Over and all after reading and searching it seems like there's a lot of guys vouching for the black pearl nets. Does anyone know where I can find a deal on one?? I'll be looking at the Gold Xtreme 11' 5/8 Mesh @ 1.9#/ft. Thanks
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Have a 10' Betts and its decent for pogies and butterfish (large ones) in New England - use it for tuna and bass baits - but want to upgrade ... thinking about either the large extra-heavy Black Pearl (11', 5/8" mesh, 1.6 or 1.9 lbs/ft) or calling up Tim Wade for a custom ... any opinions? How do the Ocean Isle nets throw? Have heard nothing but good things about Wade's nets but never actually seen/thrown one, also what sizes/mesh/weights do you guys recommend ... again, for NE large baits (6"+) usually 10-20' of water ... thanks & will report back
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Old 02-11-2011, 05:55 AM
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I bought a 12' 5/8" for pogies last year. Great net at a reasonable price.

http://www.castnets.com/
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Old 02-11-2011, 06:07 AM
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Call Tim Wade at 321 508-2836 He willl build you a custom net at a good price, my last few nets from 10-14ft have all been made by him....
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Old 02-11-2011, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Boat_Boy View Post
I would recomend a Bait Buster cast net. Not as good as a 200$ net but the best net for the money
http://justcastnets.com/index.php?page=baitBuster

I throw a 8 footer here in the chesapeake, but like said before get as big of a net that you can throw.
I have a 10ft and cant get it to open worth a dam. I either need practice or lessons.
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