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Old 02-08-2011, 01:25 PM
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Which of the less expensive sea surface temp services have you found to provide the best information? I want to use the SST more this year.
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Old 02-08-2011, 03:17 PM
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Hiltons provides the most detail and the best resolution, imo. Reasonably priced, too.
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Old 02-08-2011, 06:22 PM
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I have used sstol dot com, for years and happy with the price and service

this is some info from their website............

SST Online is in its 14th season of providing superior sea surface temperature charts for offshore angler. With the start of our 2010 season we now cover the entire east coast, including the Florida Gulf of Mexico and the Bahamas. We are also excited to add altimetry and turbidity data to our list of charts - making SST Online the very best satellite imagery service available online - at any price! Compare our HD² display technology to any other online service and it won't take long to see the difference.

Fourteen years ago we were the first to provide unlimited internet access to accurate and affordable charts, the first to provide a members forum, the first to offer all of the functionality of customized waypoints and navigation data without having to install or use any other software and today we are the first to offer a high definition, high detail custom interface.......ectable loop display that will put the Gulf Stream in motion like you have never seen it before! We invite you to join us for the 2010 season.
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Old 02-08-2011, 06:26 PM
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Old 02-09-2011, 05:08 AM
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I signed up with Hilton's as well. I've kinda' got a little to add this morning. Yesterday, I went down to the docks and met a few people coming in from offshore trips that didn't do too well. Of the 4 or 5 folks I talked too, each said they were told the fishing wasn't very good because the water was too cold. They said they went about 2 1/2 hours offshore with probably translates to about 28-32 miles out.

A little while ago, I logged into the site and sure enough, the warmer Gulf water IS further out than it has been. I've been matching up reports to conditions and am impressed with the trends reported via the SST sites. IMHO, they are indeed worth the $$$'s.
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Old 02-09-2011, 06:36 AM
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Thanks for the feedback guys.

One thing that we do that I believe is a GREAT learning tool is to provide archived data for most all of the imageries that goes back years. I call this "fishing in the rear-view mirror".

If you are able to go back in time to the days that you caught your fish, look at the imageries and note the conditions back then - why were the fish there on July 17, 2008? Then, when you look at today's imageries just before you venture out, you will have a much better educated eye on what to look for. Use the "Search Archives" feature found at the bottom of the "View Archives" pages.

Also, if you fish the same tournament each year, you will probably have an idea of where the fish were caught at last year's tournament. Pull up the imageries for the fishing days from last year's tournament, note the conditions, then look for corresponding tendencies just before this year's tournament. This WILL increase your odds.

Also, providing you the ability to tweak the sea temps based on what you are interested in is extremely important (We get about 8 to 12 sea temp images per day). Enclosed are 2 shots of the same image off of North Carolina - the first is based on a range of 38 to 76 degrees (38 degree range), the second has been customized to a range of 67 to 75 degrees (8 degree range).

What this does is pops out breaks that were undetectable on the first image, such as the 2 to 2.5 degree break on the Big Rock and/or Scallop Bed - compare the 2 images (arrows point to the 2 spots on the 2nd image).

It's all about giving you additional options to pick from to maximize your efficiencies - the primary break is on the 90 foot frop but it is good to know there is a secondary edge just a few miles away on top of the Big Rock. Also noteworthy is that the water temp is over 70 degrees on both sides of the break on B.R. which could be noteworthy depending on the species you are targeting - it will show spots that are positioned outside of the comfort zone of various species and thus are to be avoided.

The chlorophyll shot (3rd image) shows a turbidity/color change of the 90 ft. drop that dovetails with the primary break while the breaks on Big Rock / Scallop Bed are a nice blue on each side.

This gives you a game plan BEFORE you leave the dock, "Plan A", "Plan B", etc., thus increasing your odds tremendously. Having the ability to navigate upon these imageries on your iPad is a REALLY cool added feature as well.

Bottom line - the net result of using our service will be not only increased odds of success, but you will have more $$ in your pocket at the end of your subscription than if you didn't subscribe.

All the best,
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Tom, I fish off the coast of Virginia. You've got my fishing area split between 2 sectors. Do we still have to buy 2 sectors to fish Wash/Norfolk Canyons on south?
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Old 02-09-2011, 08:30 AM
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Mike,
Additional regions cost $30/year - if you are on the cusp of 2 regions I will be happy to comp the 2nd region.
Just sign up for 1 region and email me what other region you want added.
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Do you guys cover the northeast?
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Tom, thanks. Yes live right on your boarder of N-07 and N-08. If fish off the Virginia Beach area so can range the Wash Canyone down to Oregon Inlet.
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I've never used hiltons, but I have used both terrafin and oceantemp (as well as much more expensive services like roffers and OSS).

Of those two, I prefer terafin. They have chlorofil charts and I find the UI to be easier to use. Plus I like being able to download the charts (you can't really do that with oceantemp, you can print, or screenscrape but not download).

I'll probably go with OSS again this year though. Expensive but I can call Len when I'm on the water or anytime to ask advice.
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Old 02-09-2011, 09:34 AM
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Hiltons has helped me catch more tuna for the last 5 years. Wish there was a way around cloud cover though
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Old 02-09-2011, 11:21 AM
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Do you guys cover the northeast?
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Yes, we go all the way to Canada. Some of the best captains out of North Carolina, Virginia, Maryland, and NJ use our service.

I would recommend calling me when near a computer and I will put you in to show you the ropes - I think you will be surprised what we have to offer.

713 530-2267

We also encourage our subscribers to call anytime they have a question or issue.

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Old 02-09-2011, 04:27 PM
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Can the subscriber squeeze the temp range or is that something you have to do? For example, I only care about water temps from 67 - 75 at this time of year.
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Originally Posted by JAGSARE1 View Post
Can the subscriber squeeze the temp range or is that something you have to do? For example, I only care about water temps from 67 - 75 at this time of year.
Look at the pics above; when the range is expanded, there's better contrast. The different temp ranges selected are on the right. You can still find 67-75 degree temps but much easier.
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Old 02-09-2011, 06:41 PM
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No, that isn't what I meant. There is a standard temp range on the website but he showed how that can be manipulated to make the range narrower. I just wanted to know if I could do that as a subscriber or did he have to do that for me. He called it a "customized" range. Who can do the customizing?
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Jagsare1,
The power is in the hands of the subscriber.

Our default temp range is designed to optimize the entire region since we don't know where you guys are fishing from. You can then optimize the shot based on what part of the image you are interested in - let's say on the east coast, you could analyze the area from the beach to the edge of the stream, or you could focus on the area just inshore/offshore of the edge of the stream, you could optimize for the east side of the stream, or you could eliminate all other data outside of the stream and focus solely inside the Gulf Stream itself. It's entirely up to you what you do with the image and you have unlimited access to the imagery to get it just like you want it.

If anyone would like a test drive, give me a call tomorrow or whenever convenient - 713 530-2267. We will be at the Miami Boat Show next week as well.

GulfC, I know you are already a subscriber using the service, but I think maybe I can give you a couple of pointers as well if you like!

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Originally Posted by JAGSARE1 View Post
No, that isn't what I meant. There is a standard temp range on the website but he showed how that can be manipulated to make the range narrower. I just wanted to know if I could do that as a subscriber or did he have to do that for me. He called it a "customized" range. Who can do the customizing?
There's a drop down menu on the left side of the page that the user can customize anywhere from 35 to 95 degrees for both the upper and lower limits. Tom, I'll try to call today; I think I understand enough to begin learning more details.
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Tom......Do you cover the Baja Peninsula in Mexico, and, if so, how far back does your archived data go?
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Bill,
We introduced the Baja South Region which covers Cabo, Mag Bay, all the way up to Guayamas around the 1st of October 2009. Enclosed is an iPad navigation shot of the Bisbee's Grid.

Baja North which covers the west Baja coast from just below San Diego out to Guadelupe island and southward to Bahia Asuncion came out in early March 2010.

Anything you want to look for? Give me a call and we'll take a look.

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