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Penn Reels - Int'l 20 vs. TRQ100 vs. 975

Old 02-08-2011, 04:51 AM
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I am looking to buy two reels to use for striper fishing in L.I. Sound. Understanding that any one of the three reels above is overkill for this purposes, can someone explain to me the practical differences among these three reels for my purposes (bottom fishing). Also, assuming I can get the 20's and the 100 at the same price, which is a better reel? Thanks for the help.
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Old 02-08-2011, 07:19 AM
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I assume you mean for baitfishing or jigging and not trolling for stripers.
Int'l 20's are about 45 ounces, torque 100's are about 23 oz and 975's are 18 oz. Lighter weight = easier to handle. Besides making you look foolish, 20's are far too heavy and hold too much line to be useful for stripers.
The 975's (especially the LD and CSLD (lever drag) versions) are made for that type of fishing, although on a value basis, the similar sized lever drag Avet SX, MXJ/MXL for 30-35% less work just as good.
The torque 100's are a high drag reel designed more for things than run, like small tuna than for stripers. They will work for stripers though.
The 20's are a smallish (not really small) trolling reels, the 100's are a star drag jigging reel and the 975's are a medium duty bait casting reel.
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I use 975's for inshore fishing. They work well. I'm not a level wind fan but, for that type of fishing it's not a problem. You could get them in the lever drag, no level wind version but, they're pretty expensive. As LI32 said the others you list are overkill.
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Old 02-08-2011, 07:58 AM
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Thanks for the help. The 20's are out. The TRQ 100 will give me some versatility to use offshore should the need arise. At present, either the 100 or the 975 are significant leaps forward from the GTO's I am using and getting tired of breaking.
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I don't know how hard stripers are on gear, but I use 965's and 975's for salmon and shallower halibut fishing. I love them, but
They work great, but have their limits. Their clickers suck and wear out fast if you use them alot. Also they have some plastic gears. For a reel as spendy as they are you would think there would be no plastic gears.
I send mine once a year to Ollie Damon's in Oregon to have them greased, clickers replaced, and the plastic gears replaced if I happen to strip them again.
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I don't know how hard stripers are on gear, but I use 965's and 975's for salmon and shallower halibut fishing. I love them, but
They work great, but have their limits. Their clickers suck and wear out fast if you use them alot. Also they have some plastic gears. For a reel as spendy as they are you would think there would be no plastic gears.
I send mine once a year to Ollie Damon's in Oregon to have them greased, clickers replaced, and the plastic gears replaced if I happen to strip them again.

Just a little clarification needed.
Previous posters did point out that an Int'l 20 is a monster reel compared to the other 2, and probably should be out of the discussion.
Re: plastic gears in 975's: that is only in the "level-wind" versions- ALL levelwinds of every brand have a plastic drive gear [legally required]. The "non-level wind" 975CS and 975CSLD do not have it.
The TRQ100 is a discontinued model, and as such, some extremely low prices can be found if you do a little detective work. So low that they are probably the best bargain on the market right now.
The new model replacing it will be the Torque TRQ15 [also slightly smaller TRQ12]. The new model are lighter, you can purchase extra gear sets for a choice of 6-1, or 5.4-1, or 4.8-1 ratios, better freespool, choice of black or gold, etc, etc.




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As said above take a look at the small avets. Thet are nice compact reels and are also USA made.

The small internationals are nice reels, but I can't say they are worth the price tag.
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Old 02-08-2011, 11:29 AM
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Thanks for all of the help. I just ordered two 100TRQ's for $279 per no tax and free shipping. Now, does anyone have any suggestions for suitable rods for them--bottom fishing for stripers and blues. I think I would like to take a step up from the ugly sticks I have been using with the GTO's.
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Originally Posted by jlr View Post
Thanks for all of the help. I just ordered two 100TRQ's for $279 per no tax and free shipping. Now, does anyone have any suggestions for suitable rods for them--bottom fishing for stripers and blues. I think I would like to take a step up from the ugly sticks I have been using with the GTO's.
7' st croix musky rod would be a great match for those TRQ's & the type of fishing your looking at.
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Originally Posted by jlr View Post
Thanks for all of the help. I just ordered two 100TRQ's for $279 per no tax and free shipping. Now, does anyone have any suggestions for suitable rods for them--bottom fishing for stripers and blues. I think I would like to take a step up from the ugly sticks I have been using with the GTO's.
Our set-ups for that very type of fishing are are two Penn 975CSLD's and four Avet MXL's all six are on Penn Torque 6'6" 30-80 lb rods model TJ3080C66. Those rods have great action for Stripers. We fish 20 lb mono spooled on top of 300 yards of PowerPro 50 lb braid,
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Originally Posted by LI32 View Post
Our set-ups for that very type of fishing are are two Penn 975CSLD's and four Avet MXL's all six are on Penn Torque 6'6" 30-80 lb rods model TJ3080C66. Those rods have great action for Stripers. We fish 20 lb mono spooled on top of 300 yards of PowerPro 50 lb braid,
Which of the reels do you like best ? and why, Thanks

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Originally Posted by Ken T View Post
Which of the reels do you like best ? and why, Thanks

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Personally, I like the 975CSLD's a little better than the MXL's for three reasons: the counter-balanced handle is easier when you need to reel in fast; I like the shape/feel of the Penn, including its wider spool better; and its drag lever is smoother in operation.
But, my crew prefers the MXL's because: with a fish on, it is easier to crank; because of its narower spool you don't need to guide the line as much on the retrieve; and because of its larger spool diameter it retrieves more line per crank.
The deciding factor as to why 4 MXL's (as opposed to 4 975's) is that they are $100 cheaper.
I run two different types of reels for Striper fishing because they are rigged differently at the terminal end (so the crew can tell them apart)- the 975's are used for bunker chunking and the MXL's for clam fishing.
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Shimano Tekota 600 is another nice reel for live or chunk bait striper fishing.
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i like my avet mx for stripers. they work well. i have #40 power pro and #35 mono topshot. i use the topshot because i jig alot for stripers.
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Originally Posted by LI32 View Post
Personally, I like the 975CSLD's a little better than the MXL's for three reasons: the counter-balanced handle is easier when you need to reel in fast; I like the shape/feel of the Penn, including its wider spool better; and its drag lever is smoother in operation.
But, my crew prefers the MXL's because: with a fish on, it is easier to crank; because of its narower spool you don't need to guide the line as much on the retrieve; and because of its larger spool diameter it retrieves more line per crank.
The deciding factor as to why 4 MXL's (as opposed to 4 975's) is that they are $100 cheaper.
I run two different types of reels for Striper fishing because they are rigged differently at the terminal end (so the crew can tell them apart)- the 975's are used for bunker chunking and the MXL's for clam fishing.

Thanks , the reason I ask is I have a pair of the 975CS star drag and a bunch of MXL and MXJs and I like the Avets better. If my Penns were the LD models I would probably use them more. I kept thinking I would upgrade to the LDs but I bought the Avets.

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