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Old 01-29-2011, 07:05 PM
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Guys I know the subject of crimps has been beat to death but I have a probably really dumb question for you. Searched for a bit and could not find anything. If this has been discussed recently I apologize.

For mono what do you guys like to use, a double barrel crimp or a single barrel and whats your reason behind this? Have been using both and never really found a distinct difference. Appreciate it

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Old 01-29-2011, 07:44 PM
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bump id like to know too
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Old 01-29-2011, 08:02 PM
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If aluminum sleeves are used to join steel cable they will corrode away in a remarkably short period of time, just like the sacrificial anodes used on sea going boats.

For this reason aluminum sleeves should only be used for joining monofilament, whilst brass or copper sleeves can be used for joining either monofilament or cable.

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Double barrel sleeves are my favorite. They make a strong neat join and there is no danger of the cable or monofilament crossing over itself inside the sleeve.

They are also in common use on longline boats, but due to being very slightly more costly than oval sleeves they are less popular. Longliners use an awful lot of sleeves so every cent saved is important, but that’s not really such an issue for charter captains or private anglers who use far fewer.

Like oval sleeves, double barrel sleeves are available in both brass or copper and in aluminium. They should also only be compressed with a cup to cup style crimping tool.

The same comments regarding corrosion apply as for oval sleeves. It’s important so I’ll say it again. Use aluminium sleeves for monofilament only, use brass or copper sleeves for either monofilament or steel cable.

Double barrel sleeves are available in both standard and heavy-duty models. The standard sleeves are only available in brass or copper, whilst the heavy-duty sleeves are available in brass, copper and aluminium. These heavy-duty sleeves are for use with heavier leaders and larger crimping tools and are often generically referred to as ‘Nicopress’ sleeves.
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Old 01-30-2011, 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptFish View Post
If aluminum sleeves are used to join steel cable they will corrode away in a remarkably short period of time, just like the sacrificial anodes used on sea going boats.

For this reason aluminum sleeves should only be used for joining monofilament, whilst brass or copper sleeves can be used for joining either monofilament or cable.

Double barrel
Double barrel sleeves are my favorite. They make a strong neat join and there is no danger of the cable or monofilament crossing over itself inside the sleeve.

They are also in common use on longline boats, but due to being very slightly more costly than oval sleeves they are less popular. Longliners use an awful lot of sleeves so every cent saved is important, but that’s not really such an issue for charter captains or private anglers who use far fewer.

Like oval sleeves, double barrel sleeves are available in both brass or copper and in aluminium. They should also only be compressed with a cup to cup style crimping tool.

The same comments regarding corrosion apply as for oval sleeves. It’s important so I’ll say it again. Use aluminium sleeves for monofilament only, use brass or copper sleeves for either monofilament or steel cable.

Double barrel sleeves are available in both standard and heavy-duty models. The standard sleeves are only available in brass or copper, whilst the heavy-duty sleeves are available in brass, copper and aluminium. These heavy-duty sleeves are for use with heavier leaders and larger crimping tools and are often generically referred to as ‘Nicopress’ sleeves.
This also holds true if making pin rigs with copper wire. The mixed metal will accelerate corrosion.
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Old 01-30-2011, 11:00 AM
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We use small aluminum Crimps for Our Tuna Chunking rigs, Mostly because they are smaller.

We also use the Double Barrels coppers on the lager lures and you get more surf area to crimp.

Copper is also used on our cable rigs as its important as mentioned above, they will not corrode at easy.

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Old 01-31-2011, 09:19 PM
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- cup to cup crimper for copper/black double barrels which i prefer as they are smaller but more expensive than alum. crimps and they make a better connection.
- ditto if you must use alum crimps > mono only

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Originally Posted by joemat View Post
This also holds true if making pin rigs with copper wire. The mixed metal will accelerate corrosion.
concerning copper or steel. Do you really think that aluminum crimp is going to die or fail??? No way. How many seasons would it take?? The mono leader should be replaced every couple years any way?$? I still think it would take the average fisherman 20? No 50 years to get an aluminum crimp to corrode enough to need replacing. Back to the OP question. I prefer the one on the right. With the proper size mono and the proper size crimping tool or jawz for crimping. That is the most important part. I like the softer aluminum over the steel crimp. If the crimp is made to close to the end. It looks like the steel ones can cut the mono leader but the thicker aluminum ones do not seem to do this. If properly crimped both work as planned but I prefer the one on the right.
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use the alum.{for mono}and you won't be disappointed.just make sure you match the crimp with the mono.there is a graph on the crimp pkg.that shows the correct size dia...
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Appreciate it guys. Thanks for the input
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Old 02-02-2011, 02:40 PM
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I use single Jinkai crimps for mono. Hauled in tuna in eccess of 200lbs and sturgeon in the same category
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Originally Posted by Bly View Post
concerning copper or steel. Do you really think that aluminum crimp is going to die or fail??? No way. How many seasons would it take?? The mono leader should be replaced every couple years any way?$? I still think it would take the average fisherman 20? No 50 years to get an aluminum crimp to corrode enough to need replacing. Back to the OP question. I prefer the one on the right. With the proper size mono and the proper size crimping tool or jawz for crimping. That is the most important part. I like the softer aluminum over the steel crimp. If the crimp is made to close to the end. It looks like the steel ones can cut the mono leader but the thicker aluminum ones do not seem to do this. If properly crimped both work as planned but I prefer the one on the right.
This is what I was told by Chuck at Tournament Cable. The rigging session at this weekends Canyon Runner seminar also stressed this. But I guess you know more than those guy's .

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