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Yesterday, in a spam thread that appears to have been deleted, I mentioned I would post a picture of how to build a jumping daisy chain for sailfish. Here's the picture. Very inexpensive and easy to build. I use these often with good results in the Sea of Cortez. You can use any color hootchie skirts to build it and it will draw strikes from skipjack, tuna, dophin,and other surface feeders.

The main attraction of this lure is the two jumping arms. It appears to be two small baitfish skittering and fleeing to get away from a larger fish. In the eat or be eaten world of the sea, this rings the dinner bell and fish will attack the lure.

I troll these 7-10 knots. Adjust your speed so that you're getting maximum "jumping" action from the two arms. If you go too fast, the arms tend to collapse below the surface, rather than skitter on top. Works best in calm seas, but I've used them with a little chop, too.

Some build notes: I use 300 lb. test for the arms and often use just a large plastic bead instead of a small lead egg sinker. Place the bead inside the hootchie heads, poke a small hole through the skirt to align the bead and skirts, then slip the heavy mono through it. Simply mushroom the end of the line with a lighter and the beaded skirt will stay in place. If you do use lead, make it a small amount or the arms will be too heavy for good action. Any questions, let me know.

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Excellent Dulce'! Very nice. Thanks.

About how long are the arms, not including the skirts? Is tangling a problem with the arms?

Thanks again.
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Arms should be about a foot long. I just measured one of mine and they are 13". They should be spaced on the mainline at about two ft. apart. Never had one get tangled. Use good leader material and the arms stay fairly stiff. I generally use Jinkai leader for all my rigging, but Ande or others work fine, too. The leader will have a natural curl in it from being coiled, so you'll get the curved effect needed to make the hootchie skirts jump.
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Thanks Dulce'. You're right. The setup is easy. Mushrooming the ends of the arms makes for quick changes if you want to experiment with different baitfish. Man the whole setup is ripe for easy changes.

Have you experimented with wire for the arms, and how far back do you typically troll it?
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Originally Posted by Dulcecita Lures View Post

The main attraction of this lure is the two jumping arms. It appears to be two small baitfish skittering and fleeing to get away from a larger fish. In the eat or be eaten world of the sea, this rings the dinner bell and fish will attack the lure.

I troll these 7-10 knots. Adjust your speed so that you're getting maximum "jumping" action from the two arms. If you go too fast, the arms tend to collapse below the surface, rather than skitter on top. Works best in calm seas, but I've used them with a little chop, too.

Some build notes: I use 300 lb. test for the arms and often use just a large plastic bead instead of a small lead egg sinker. Place the bead inside the hootchie heads, poke a small hole through the skirt to align the bead and skirts, then slip the heavy mono through it. Simply mushroom the end of the line with a lighter and the beaded skirt will stay in place. If you do use lead, make it a small amount or the arms will be too heavy for good action. Any questions, let me know.

Tight Lines!
Looks good, I make a similar one with small willow blades (glass minnows).


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"Yesterday, in a spam thread that appears to have been deleted"
Why not spend a couple of bucks and become legit? Read the rules, pay your dues and get with the program. GROW UP!
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Actually sandy it wasn't Dulce' doing the spamming. Dulce' was helping there and here.

REDWEISER I can see how your idea would be deadly. I know kings and Spanish love to hit the spoons. Thanks man.
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Sandy, I'm not trying to sell anything. As Proline said, I was actually offering some real advice on jethead lures in a spam thread someone else started. Same here - I'm just offering advice on making lures, which is what I do as a hobby.

I can see the willow spoons as a good alternative. Would certainly add some flash. Do they provide the "jumping" action, or just drag in the water and flash?

Haven't used wire. I'm not a big fan of wire on any lure, but there are definitely places where it is indespensible.

Plus, once I pay up, I won't be able to see the bikini babes on every thread!
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Originally Posted by Dulcecita Lures View Post
...Plus, once I pay up, I won't be able to see the bikini babes on every thread!


Thanks, Dulce'. The simplicity of the rig is excellent, as well as the "natural" presentation it makes. I've read a ton lately that's in line with what you're saying about trolling presentation.

Late last night on another website I read an article about spreaders by a capt who pulls a spreader down the middle off the transom as a fish attractor only, and trolls his lures just off to the side and back....ie., imitating the stragglers, or he trolls bigger chasers in the back for the same reason you do. The cool thing for me was on the THT spreader bar thread I mentioned earlier that's what I wanted to do, and then later read the above-mentioned article. When you're new at this and learn someone else is succesfully doing what you're thinking about, it's nice.

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Also try the shorter 4 inch cedar plus . . . they really dance

I agree that 300 lb mono for the drops 'arms' is best as it keeps the lures to one side.

Tried a longer one with 4 drops and it was more difficult to deploy
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Originally Posted by auguste View Post
Tried a longer one with 4 drops and it was more difficult to deploy
Yes, two "jumpers" is ideal. Reminds me of one of my half-baked ideas - I wanted to build a really cool teaser. Back in the day, when AOL trial CDs were free and everywhere, I scooped up a couple dozen of them. I then meticulously cut holographic plastic for the label side, then drilled holes and strung 6 of them together in a long chain with snap swivels, heavy line, and crimps. I played with it in the swimming pool and man-oh-man, did that thing throw some flash!

So, first time out in San Carlos, I drop my nice new shiny teaser out there and secure it to a cleat, then set out my spread and went about trolling. Well, I guess I under-estimated just how much drag 6 CDs would really create going through the water. Within 15 minutes, my teaser just beat itself to death, with the CDs cracking and just breaking apart. Ah well, back to the drawing board! Didn't cost me but a couple bucks to build the silly thing and it looked REALLY good in the water -- for a little while!
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Originally Posted by Dulcecita Lures View Post
I can see the willow spoons as a good alternative. Would certainly add some flash. Do they provide the "jumping" action, or just drag in the water and flash?
I haven't tried them yet, waiting on the gulf to open. They should jump and dance freely with no weight holding them down.


3 groups of 3 = 9 ... 1 ft apart ... total length 4 ft.

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Looks great Red'!

So what we're seeing is the last group of 3 and the chaser, and there are 2 more groups of 3 up the line?
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Wow they look great. I started using willow leafs now for a few years, only on spreader bars. I have got to stop being so limited.
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Looks great Red'!

So what we're seeing is the last group of 3 and the chaser, and there are 2 more groups of 3 up the line?
Right ... the bulb squid on the bottom covers a snap swivel for adding a 3 ft chase bait leader of mono,fluoro or wire.
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Guys that's all great stuff! Your examples look just like the commercial ones. Very nice.

Red I just noticed you live in Metairie. I lived there about 30 years ago. Loved it. Beautiful women with that sweet n'awlins accent.
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Guys that's all great stuff! Your examples look just like the commercial ones. Very nice.

Red I just noticed you live in Metairie. I lived there about 30 years ago. Loved it. Beautiful women with that sweet n'awlins accent.
One thing I didn't mention, I'm using stiff fluoro for the spreader arms. Soft mono will probably fold back against the main line at trolling speed, the fluoro will probably do the same but stay out a little better.

I'm in the process of rigging one using titanium wire for wahoo & kings with more stiffness.

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180 Lb. main line. Wings or drops 300 Lb Momoi stiff leader with octopus skirts and floats in them same as I would rig my spreader bars
Stinger is a 7.5 chugger dolleye with a 7/0 stainless steel 4 X
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One thing I didn't mention, I'm using stiff fluoro for the spreader arms. Soft mono will probably fold back against the main line at trolling speed, the fluoro will probably do the same but stay out a little better.

I'm in the process of rigging one using titanium wire for wahoo & kings with more stiffness.

Use the Momoi Xtr-hard mono it's stiff like flouro but cheap like reg mono. I use 400 and 530 for 10" pencil poppers on the branches (our fish are a wee bit bigger up here) and a 12-16" cedar for the stinger 4 dancers with the stinger. I get the mono from shark wind-ons that are no longer good for that purpose btw
Red very innovative the way you branched that off I like it alot
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Originally Posted by ubettcha13 View Post
Use the Momoi Xtr-hard mono it's stiff like flouro but cheap like reg mono. I use 400 and 530 for 10" pencil poppers on the branches (our fish are a wee bit bigger up here) and a 12-16" cedar for the stinger 4 dancers with the stinger. I get the mono from shark wind-ons that are no longer good for that purpose btw
Red very innovative the way you branched that off I like it alot
What top speed are you pulling? I made a titanium for a test (it's stiff).


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