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Old 05-27-2009, 05:11 PM
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Could they have done anything else to NOT store those tuna properly?? No bleeding, no ice, tossing them into the hold? might as well buy some bumble bee and call it a day.
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Old 05-27-2009, 05:33 PM
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Cool Deadliest catch

Used to be a good documentary , now its a broadway production, ; met some of the capts , colorfull people, and interesting.
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Old 05-27-2009, 05:40 PM
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Didn't see the show, how'd they encounter tuna?

The show did used to be great. I've got a friend who knows the Hillstrands, and from what he's told me, they're really knowledgeable guys. The production aspect of it has gone too far from the fishing towards just selling the show.
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Lots of dead crab. I missed the part when they were south of the border. How bout the kid setting himself up for the wheelhouse. Oh My Back! Wtf kid
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The Time Bandit caught their limit early, and the crew went to Mexico, chartered a boat and went fishing. They showed shots of the mates lifting RAT yellowfins into the chartered sportfish, and straight into the iceless and waterless fish hold to drum themselves to death. For men who make their lives on the quality of seafood, they should know better and present a better image. Cowboys or not, they are in the spotlight and now comes the responsibility, if they have any...
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Originally Posted by PtJudeRI View Post
The Time Bandit caught their limit early, and the crew went to Mexico, chartered a boat and went fishing. They showed shots of the mates lifting RAT yellowfins into the chartered sportfish, and straight into the iceless and waterless fish hold to drum themselves to death. For men who make their lives on the quality of seafood, they should know better and present a better image. Cowboys or not, they are in the spotlight and now comes the responsibility, if they have any...
How do you know the hold wasn't a freezer or that the mate didn't bleed the fish and shovel ice in the hold after he got the baits back out? They only showed a five minute clip of a whole day of tuna fishing. They could have had five rods go off at one time and were putting fish in the boat one after another. Just a thought.
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Old 05-27-2009, 08:45 PM
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Lots of dead crab. I missed the part when they were south of the border. How bout the kid setting himself up for the wheelhouse. Oh My Back! Wtf kid
Throughout the entire King Crab Season they made it sound like the Cornelia Marie was having the season from hell. They top that off with them making the huge deal about the dead crab. The Capt. and crew looked like they were ready to hang themselves about the dead loss.

But then did everyone catch the tallies at the end of the show for the whole season? THAT crew made the most money of all the boats on the show! I think it was like $54K each! (I was half asleep, but I think that 54K was the number, with the Norwestern at $51K and they also were having a "mediocre" season!)

I know that it is all quota now - the Cornelia Marie bought a huge quota - so therefore they were able to make more $$ -Yes they went back out for an extra trip at the end, yes, they had to fish more hours, but they got paid the most. Strange why they made it sound as if the season was disastrous.
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so yeah, it got me curious on the proper technique to handle a tuna. Found a link to the "Onboard handling of sashimi-grade tuna". A lot of work if done properly, but I guess it would become routine if you land enough of them.

http://www.spc.int/coastfish/Fishing.../Sashimi_E.htm
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Throughout the entire King Crab Season they made it sound like the Cornelia Marie was having the season from hell. They top that off with them making the huge deal about the dead crab. The Capt. and crew looked like they were ready to hang themselves about the dead loss.

But then did everyone catch the tallies at the end of the show for the whole season? THAT crew made the most money of all the boats on the show! I think it was like $54K each! (I was half asleep, but I think that 54K was the number, with the Norwestern at $51K and they also were having a "mediocre" season!)

I know that it is all quota now - the Cornelia Marie bought a huge quota - so therefore they were able to make more $$ -Yes they went back out for an extra trip at the end, yes, they had to fish more hours, but they got paid the most. Strange why they made it sound as if the season was disastrous.
I noticed the same thing . Didn't make a lot of sense to me either. Time Bandit boys were making out like they won the lottery, but I think they made the least amount of money. They were talking about how the TB boys were finished fishing so much earlier than the other boats, but if their quota was only a 1/4 of the other boats, they'd better finish well before everyone else
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It all depends on how you look at the money - the Time Bandit guys made $30k each for 2 weeks of fishing, which it took the Cornelia Marie 7 weeks to earn their $54k - meaning on a per day basis, the TB guys earned double the CM guys. Assuming it takes 7 days for the crew to prep the boat and 3 days to put it away, the TB guys still made 50% more per day.
I know coming from the NYC area money is different, and I am ready to get flamed, but that seems like awfully hard (not to mention the risky) work for about a $1,000/day (on sucessful boats).
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I agree with the comments about the money. i wish the show would do a better job of cronological depiction. i understand they need to get the drama in. but after listening to the guys talk, it sounds like they are doing multiple shorter trips with interim off loads. the show makes it appear to be one long trip with a final off load.

I also agree about them showing the wizard and cornelia maria having "slow" seasons yet they always end with the most crab - yes a bigger quota, but the way show is made it looks like the TB caught double the amount of crab of the CM, when in reality it was only half.
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Here a question- what motors do those boats run on? They seem to be out there a LONG time running all over the place, maybe they hold that much?

Also, are there other boats that Discovery pays to tag along each boat to get film "from a distance"
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Old 05-28-2009, 07:58 AM
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Few responses here:
From the looks of the deckhatch insulation, to me it seemed like the in-floor box was a freezer of some sorts. They may have bleed the fish out after the blitz slowed down - just a thought.

I really love the show but it is really just becoming the same old thing. I know we are looking at the show a bit differently but for the general public who doesn't know much about boats, fishing or anything else related to the marine environment, the show sells. People watch it and it's making Discovery a ton of cash. A side show put on ESPN2 would be cool for the 'fishing minded' people.

rcoleman: Those boats hold a ton of fuel. I remember an episode where they the CM took on about 60,000 gallons of fuel. These boats are also slow trawlers type hulls pushing an amazing 10 to 12 knots. I remember hearing Sid's boat was burning about 1000 gallons of fuel per day (engines and generators) and he was happy he had a single screw, saying the twin boats are burning closer to 1500-2000 per day.

From what I understand, this is the first year they have had tag-along boats for filming from a distance. Discovery must be making some big $$$$ on this show or they would not be able to justify the cost.
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Originally Posted by rcoleman View Post
Here a question- what motors do those boats run on? They seem to be out there a LONG time running all over the place, maybe they hold that much?

Also, are there other boats that Discovery pays to tag along each boat to get film "from a distance"
The all run 1 or 2 500-800 hp heavy duty rated engines (either CAT or Detroits) - The Northwestern has a single CAT 3412 @ 700 hp, same basic motor as the C32's which are 1750 hp in pleasure boat use.

If you saw the "making of" show, the SEA STAR (from season 1) with Larry Hendricks is the boat that does most of the chase work and filming of the other boats in rough weather, and has done so since season 4 (current is season 5); they also use two smaller boats to run supplies and pick up films in good weather.

The boats actually use more fuel running their 2-4 generators than the do for propulsion.
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I wouldn’t be surprised at all if the boat in Mexico was out fishing with no ice and didn’t bleed that tuna.
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Old 05-28-2009, 09:18 AM
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Maybe it was a freezer hold, I dont know, but I would think that a good charter would have a better handle on the situation. Just got me miffed taking all those rats and not doing the proper work.
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I was extremely irritated at the dead crabs...that was a pile....

What a waste.

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Guys, I have been on several boats where yellowfin tuna were caught, put on ice and never bled. The meat tasted fine to me. I do agree that most fish are better if bled after catching, but it doesn't make the meat unuseable if you don't bleed.
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LI32 - your wealth of knowledge is fantastic - always look forward to reading your posts.

So - here is the question: The CAT 3412 @ 700 hp which is the same as a C32's tuned up to 1750hp. Being that CAT is pumping out over an extra 1000HP from the same engine seems insane - such that it would drastically reduce the engine life. In a case like this, wouldn't you feel a gear-changing transmission would be a better option - similar to that of a land based vehicle?
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It all depends on how you look at the money - the Time Bandit guys made $30k each for 2 weeks of fishing, which it took the Cornelia Marie 7 weeks to earn their $54k - meaning on a per day basis, the TB guys earned double the CM guys. Assuming it takes 7 days for the crew to prep the boat and 3 days to put it away, the TB guys still made 50% more per day.
I know coming from the NYC area money is different, and I am ready to get flamed, but that seems like awfully hard (not to mention the risky) work for about a $1,000/day (on sucessful boats).
I am not even from NYC and it sure seems like a hard (and risky) way to earn a living!
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