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Old 12-24-2008, 03:49 PM   #1
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Default Ballyhoo in brine?

I've heard different stories on how to thaw the frozen pre-rigged ballyhoo.
Straight up in the sun makes them soft...
Some say use brine. What kind of brine are we talking about?
Any help would be welcome.
What is the best way to thaw your frozen bait?
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sea water/ add sea salt and make a hypertonic soltion/ add ice to make it super cold / add baking soda/ and let them thaw out in this solution, if youre just catching ballyhoo and you want to brine them to freeze pack them , then add them to this solution and let them sit overnight.
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We do pretty much as warmpinkcenter. I get a 5 gal bucket of seawater, some ice and koser salt with a touch of baking soda. Nothing works better for any bait. We us the same solution to kill the bait in for freezing too.
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I just thaw them in the bag. If I'm going out on Sat. Friday morning the packs come out of the freezer for an hour or so (in the house) and into the fridge when I leave for work.

That night when I come home, they're usually completely thawed. I mix 2 cups of Kosher Salt into a 3 gal bucket of fresh water along with a 1/2 cup baking soda.

I rig the baits and rinse in the brine solution to clean them off. Rigged baits are then laid in a cooler (on top of the ice and sprinkled with a dry brine mix.

I NEVER thaw them out in water -- salt or fresh.

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What is the purpose of the baking soda?
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Old 12-25-2008, 09:24 AM   #6
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Some ballyhoo you buy has been pre-brined and is ready to fish as soon as you thaw it out . . . if you put it into a brine solution for a second time (with enough salt and for a long enough period) they become very stiff and will not swim well

Since you bought pre-rigged ballyhoo it is probably ready to fish once it has been thawed out

I simply place the ballyhoo (while they are still in their plastic wrap) into a pail of water and they will thaw out in about 2 hours time.

I typically plan on using 2 bags of ballyhoo in a day so I make sure that it is thawed before I leave the docks.

I also bring extra ballyhoo (for those exceptional days or when everything is biting short) but I keep it frozen until two hours before I need it . . . thawed out ballyhoo that is refrozen will be real mushy the second time you thaw them out

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keeps their color silver and shiny
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We use Bionic Brine which does the trick:

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To me the most important part to hit heavy with salt or the Bionic Brine mix is the bellies. We stack them up upside down and sprinkle Bionic Brine fairly heavily. This keeps them from blowing out as quickly.
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do you think in your experience heavy brine effects the swimming action of the ballyhoo by making it stiffer and less life like? i do the same think by brining them the way you do , but i don't know if its my imagination, or it takes away their swimming lifelike action?
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Brine them, break their backs in a few places by placing your pointer finger on the spine and bend the bait, never had a bait swim "too stiff" no matter how heavy you salt them.....
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I take a bucket of saltwater and throw the bagged ballyhoo in that to thaw--don't open the bag, tho. Then I will use a store-bought brine--like Bionic Brine--or use a home-made mixture of kosher salt & baking soda. Do NOT use regular table salt....it will make the bait soft. After rigging the baits, I will lay them on an aluminum tray and put it in a cooler...don't lay the baits directly on the ice. The rest of the baits that I have still in the bags stay there unopened until I need them....I usually have a couple of dozen rigged baits before I leave the dock. Brining seems to make the bait tougher, but I have never had a problem with a thawed quality frozen bait rigged straight out of the bag and used right away. Some baits are better than others; I have always had good luck with Bionic....not so with Baitmaster and Plantation. My experience only--I know those who swear by Baitmaster....but the time I used them they were crap. Plantation has always been bad for the most part. I can only count on 1 good bag out of ten with them.
I always de-poop, pop the eyes out, and break the spine on my ballyhoo....it helps in the rigging and keeps them from washing out as quickly. I will keep the bill on my naked swimming baits, but snap it off on everything else.
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We use kosher salt and borax. When you thaw your baits make sure you thaw them bill down. This will keep any blood from getting into the scales which will keep the silver silver instead of dull reddish silver. With the bills down you also wont damage the tails. After thawing we put our baits back down and dry brine them with a 50-50 mix of kosher salt and borax...Mark
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offshore3144 - 12/26/2008 8:01 PM We use kosher salt and borax. When you thaw your baits make sure you thaw them bill down. This will keep any blood from getting into the scales which will keep the silver silver instead of dull reddish silver. With the bills down you also wont damage the tails. After thawing we put our baits back down and dry brine them with a 50-50 mix of kosher salt and borax...Mark
Good idea on 'bill down' to thaw them out
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