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Old 04-04-2004, 03:55 AM
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Do you guys use longlines when fishing ? Here in NZ we can set a 25 hook longline and usually get some decent fish on it .
The setup consist of ( two floats , two anchors ,2 x 25 metres of float line , 200 metres of backbone longline , 25 special harvest clips and traces ) . Set the longline for a maximum of 1.5 hours
Usually catch most of my biggest fish this way .
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Old 04-04-2004, 07:00 AM
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Not allowed in Canada for recreational fishermen
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Not allowed in Canada for recreational fishermen
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Old 04-04-2004, 10:52 AM
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Doesn't sound like fishing to me.
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Old 04-04-2004, 12:30 PM
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I don't know about the regulations in the US or specifically off the NC Coast. I've heard of no recreational fisherman in my neck of the woods that do this or would consider doing it. I think for the most part, we enjoy the feel of fighting a fish one-on-one.
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Old 04-05-2004, 12:18 AM
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Not very sporting...
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Old 04-05-2004, 09:06 AM
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i've sat at a rig and watched a commercial snapper boat run his longlines
it ain't pretty...
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Old 04-05-2004, 09:41 AM
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He**, thats CATCHING not FISHING........... Me on one end of the line and fish on the other, me against it, light enough tackle so its a fair fight and then we go to it. I use my tricks, fish uses its tricks, sometimes I win, sometimes not......
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Old 04-05-2004, 09:41 AM
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Heck, I don't even think umbrella rigs are very sporty. After you have had 3 simultaneous 5lbs bluefish on an umbrella rig, it loses it's allure.

25 hook lines sounds like commercial fishing, not sport fishing to me....
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Old 04-05-2004, 10:00 AM
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We live in different worlds...that would most likely be considered Comm. fishing here, setting out hooks, floats and all the other gear.

To obtain a longline permit we have to buy out a exsisting operation, the lines are limited to 24 miles.
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Old 04-05-2004, 01:26 PM
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That is trying to make a commercial living, not fishing. Too much random destruction of nontargeted fish for my liking. Wish it was banned worldwide, just my thoughts.
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Old 04-05-2004, 02:54 PM
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None of y'all have ever run a trot line for catfish in freshwater?
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Old 04-05-2004, 03:20 PM
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yep...
and all i caught was catfish on it (maybe an occasional gar...)
a trot line in 15' of water is a lot more discriminate about what it kills than a 25 hook long line in offshore waters
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Old 04-05-2004, 04:01 PM
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Not only are they a lot fewer non-target species that you might catch on a cat line, most of these freshwater species would live for several days on a trot line and could be released with very low mortality. Nothing like offshore palagics that would die in a few hours.

If you are hungry, sell your boat and go to the grocery store. If you want something to brag about, catch him one on one.
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Wouldn't dynamite do the same thing

Sounds like moose hunting.....

Get 'em close to the road before you shoot 'em.
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Old 04-05-2004, 04:14 PM
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GRRRRR...... that type of fishing would be well thought of in
our country. If you want to fish ...FISH... if you want to be
a mini-destructor of the enviro....then run your longlines.
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Old 04-07-2004, 02:33 AM
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As fare as im awhere in Australia your not allowed to use long linesif your a recriational fisher.
I hate anything that has to do with catching a fish in anyway other than on a fishing rod and then the line has to be a low braking poundig as posible.
Wheres the fun in skull draging a fish?!?!?!?!
It's bloody discrasfull!!

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Old 04-07-2004, 06:37 AM
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Hi Akinghi,
I think everyone thinks a long line is not the way to go, Down here in NZ we (amateur fishers)are allowed to fish with up to 25 hooks max on a longline,either set from a boat or from the shore with a kite, kontiki, bags or self propelled torpedo or whatever else someone can dream up that will take about 1200 yards of nylon out from shore.
Most people that use this type of method to catch fish use it as a way of catching food for the table not sport fishing.
The daily limits are still the same as if you where fishing with a rod from the beach,rocks or a boat. If you get caught with to many fish or under size you can still lose your gear, boat and car plus a fine if found to be selling or way over the limit.
They are not set in deep water most of the time usually in about 20-40' of water, the target species are snapper, kahawai,trevally,john dory and kingi's (yellow tail), all table fish, you don't seem to catch many other species with them in the north, don't know about the south maybe blue cod.
Most people use rod and reel to fish but some use the long line as well especially if the fishing is slow. it's not frowned upon down here, it's part of the way we live, it's been used for as long as i can remember. Our fisheries are doing ok, the govt keeps a sharp eye on things, if MAF thought it was harmful to the fish stocks they would have had it banned years ago.

Just thought i would try and shed a bit of light on the subject as most seem to think it is rape and pillage of our fisheries.

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Old 04-07-2004, 07:56 AM
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meant to say... WOULDN NOT BE well thought of.....
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Old 04-08-2004, 04:44 AM
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Thanks for the backup support Colin
We still have limits on all species of fish . The fish caught on the longline are always alive and can be released easily , we can be size selective taking only what's is needed up to the daily limit ( eg . daily limit 9 snapper per person )
Fish is generally expensive to buy here for the average family ( most of it get's exported ) .
Snapper a common table species here is sold for NZ $28 a kilogram ( just over two pounds ) US$14

My original posting was only to see if longlines generally produce bigger fish than fishing with rods .
Apologies if this was taken the wrong way as I was unaware recreational longlines were not allowed to be used in USA or Canada .





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