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Old 12-10-2008, 10:11 AM   #1
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Gonna go troll for some 'hoo's this winter, but new to it. Got some heavy headed trolling baits, some 24 oz trolling leads, also got a few strech 30's and some yo-zuri trolling shakers. Wondering what my best combo is trolling around rigs and weedlines in the winter. Also, what should these baits be rigged with, obviously wire leader, but what size, strength? Can i run the strech 30's with the skirted lures, or is that wrong? Like i said, first timer here, so any info will be great. Thanks.
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Sounds like you have a good assortment of lures... I would put those lures w/ cable.. 480# should do fine.. I also like the Yozuri bonita lures behind a trolling lead.. Those are killer.. The stretch 30's are great too, but they will limit your speed to about 10 knots..

If high speedtrolling is your thing, you should look into a lure w/ a pointed head so that it will stay beneath the water.. Those are the kind that I typically troll.. Just last saturday I caught a nice wahoo off of Ft Lauderdale using one of my BigBite Offshore high speed wahoo lures (see below)..

Either way good luck and hold on as those puppies hit w/ a ton of force!

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Old 12-10-2008, 02:29 PM   #3
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175# wire is all I use to troll with, Stretches work great, both the Pink and Blue/Chrome are my favorite 2 colors...pull them anywhere from 5-7kts. Braid Marauders also work very well....pulling them from 6-10kts. Yozuri Hydro Bonitas, Pink Mirrorlures, and Blue/White Illanders work well also. The tops for me however is probably the Braid Maruader with the Stretch in a close second. Wahoo are very aggressive fish, when you think you are trolling too fast.....you still probably aren't pulling fast enough!!
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Old 12-10-2008, 02:50 PM   #4
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The last time I targeted wahoo, most of the rigs I used were big islanders with meat using wahoo cigar trolling weights. I also had a couple of these out:
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All were rigged with 10/0 & 12/0 hooks and stainless 270lb. test cable.
The Gruwha darts got bit the most.....all trolled at a minimum of 10 knots.
I have caught wahoo fast trolling at 15 knots.....like Southern Hunter said, it's very hard to troll faster than a wahoo can sprint.
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The Gruwha darts got bit the most.....all trolled at a minimum of 10 knots.
I have caught wahoo fast trolling at 15 knots.....like Southern Hunter said, it's very hard to troll faster than a wahoo can sprint.
It's nearly impossible. They can reach speeds of 60mph! Sometimes the higher speed will entice them to strike when they wont go after anything else.. The trick is to change lures, colors, speeds, depths, until you find em stacked up..
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Old 12-10-2008, 06:42 PM   #6
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I get wahoo mixed in with tuna when I'm trolling fast. What I *think* is happening is that a fast bait going in a straight line drives a competitive bite. If this is true, then a slow bait gives a fish too long to look at it and a fast bait makes them decide really quick.

And then again, some of the wahoo I've landed were bycatch trolling 4-5 kts for dolphin.
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:52 AM   #7
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Thanks for all of the info, from what everyone is saying, I have most of the gear to get me started, and maybe even catch a fish or two. Now i just need to work on my tecnique, then I'll have pictures all over the forum.
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Hopefully this short thread will help you.........I doubt it.



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Caught a 40#er this year using a Downrigger #6 Old Salty Planer , 50ft 90# mono to a Pink Drone Spoon...........( No wire )......ICM
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We were trolling last saturday out of Ft Pierce using Ballyhoo and skirts. We dropped a Stretch 25 with 60lb wire back just behind the transom and ran a bowling pin teaser just above and in front of it running about 9mph.

The results were predictable.


45Lbs.

Most of my wahoo come on the short flat line. Just behind the transom. They do like some speed though.
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http://www.wahooking.com/winner.html

Great link with TONs of info. Catch em' up.
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Old 12-16-2008, 05:24 AM   #12
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Check out rslures.com---they have some great Wahoo lures, for high speed trolling. Ive had great luck with them, they are all hand turned. Good Luck with the wahoo.
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Old 12-16-2008, 06:13 AM   #13
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I caught my first wahoo back off of Miami when I was thirteen years old and caught and traded ballyhoo, pinfish and mullet for rides with the charterboat fleet that I worked with. That was over fifty years ago (yup, I'm an old codger!) I fell in love with them that day and have fished for them all over the world with some top wahoo fishermen ever since, something that I was lucky enough to do because I have always been involved in the fishing tackle industry. Fact is, many years later I actually caught the very first fish caught on a Shimano big game lever drag reel, a TTS 30, down out of Oregon Inlet their very first time out. I love all saltwater gamefish, but because of my special affinity for wahoo, I considered that fish a good omen for the future of our lever drags. Seemed to have worked, too.

One of the great things about wahoo, besides their great eating and oft nearshore locations and the fact that the longliners haven't figured out how to catch them yet, is that there are a lot of ways to catch them - some way better than others, of course.

We fished "for 'em all" on my charterboat down in Cabo, but we also specialized in catching wahoo for people who wanted them. Plus, it was a rare crew trip when we didn't target the 'hoos. Because of that I was able to experiment with techniques, lures and baits and add that to what I had been taught by some of the top wahoo guys before. We developed some things that really upped our wahoo catches, including some special ballyhoo tricks with the ballies that we brought in from Baitmasters in Florida. You could not get ballyhoo locally back then, so we had no choice but to fly them to California and then have customers hand carry them down to Cabo, a four thousand mile trip in total. And in case anyone is wondering, we did went through all of that trouble and expense for one reason, and one reason only, they worked!

Thanks to Captain Ron Hamlin, we started high speed trolling at 18-20 knots for the 'hoos long before it became very widespread. It was non-existent in Cabo at the time. We developed lures that were and are a lot less expensive than the ones that are on the market today. I don't sell them, but I do show how to make and rig them in my books.

Cabo was a world-class "classroom" for wahoo hunters, including those looking for the biggest ones on the planet. Our biggest weighed fish was 138#, but we caught and cut some that I'm pretty sure were bigger because we were in the tropics, a long way from home and didn't want them to be anything less than pristine. It was a charterboat, so we wound up with more than a few folks who wanted wahoo, but who were either terribly inexperienced anglers, ones that were too weak to handle the rigors of dealing with a big 'hoo, or that were too hung over from the night before to handle that. We lost some monsters because of "The Bozo Factor" and the fact that the really big ones might break the world record, I wouldn't allow anyone else but the original angler to fight a truly big fish or help out in any other IGFA illegal way.

Among the fish that got lost was one that I am convinced was not only a world record, but that I am certain weighed over two hundred pounds. The "angler" was a hung-over, barfing, fat azzed purchasing agent who a real fisherman salesman was treating to the trip. He would have made short work of that fish. But the other guy? How about over an hour and a half on a one thirty two speed and a bent butt rod? Toward the end, with the fish up top and in clear view, I had to literally BEG this guy to just turn the reel handle. Long story short, I watched the fish do a final head shake and saw the lure pop out and the fish sink out. The worst part was that I am sure that she died. My crew and I were devastated. The purchasing agent guy was too sick to care, but the salesman guy who had chartered the boat left the boys a $1,200 tip because he understood who important that fish was to us. That made my boys happy, but since I never shared tips with them, I was still wanting to kick some arse.

Now, before anyone doubts the size of that fish, please take into consideration that the biggest wahoo on earth live in Baja waters. Both the previous all-tackle fish, which was taken just up the beach from Cabo and the new 183# record that was taken just off of Cabo came from there. The vast majority of the big wahoos there that hit marlin lures and such bite them off because virtually everyone trolls their lures on mono leaders, so the big 'gators simple bite them off. As an example, a gringo pal who was on my dock once lost nine Black Bart lures to wahoo in a single week! We had more bites than that and didn't lose a fish OR a lure!

I know that the following will create some controversy, all of it from people who haven't used them or fished them right, but spreaderbars that we named "WahooBars" became our top wahoo producers of them all. I'm, ducking as I write that, but it's the truth.

Some wahoo pictures and a lure or two, plus the Wahoo Troller's Bible.

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Old 12-16-2008, 07:27 AM   #14
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we caught five hoo's two weeks ago off jacksonville. 3 hit a blue and white ilander, one hit a black and green Mr Big and the last fish hit a red and black ilander. we had two more hits on blue and white. we trolled at 15mph.
like everyone on this site thats caught wahoo I've caught em slow and fast with meat and without. sounds like you have every thing you need.

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Old 12-16-2008, 08:51 AM   #15
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Off OC MD weve lost alot but caught a few on Mono,
I used 80lb wire for leaders, rigged with islanders chuggers.
Never ran over 6 knots and caught more than enough.
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Mr. Big from C&H Lures trolled at 10-18 mph with trolling weights...blue and white and black and puple......Hold On!
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Mr. Big from C&H Lures trolled at 10-18 mph with trolling weights...blue and white and black and puple......Hold On!
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For all the Shaky baits(ie. Yozuri bonita, Braid Maraurder,etc.) make sure to use single strand wire instead of cable. You'll get a better action. I use #7 or #8 hard wire with haywire twists connecting to swivels. No trolling lead needed. Run the Shaky bais right in the prop wash--like 10' behind the boat. Diving plugs a little further. One or two passes around a rig and haul a$$. If they're there, they'll bite. Leave all baits out for 30 seconds or so after you get one hooked up, they often school up around the rigs...

I run 1-2 shaky baits 1-2 diving plugs, and always 1 blue/white islander way the heck out.
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Old 12-16-2008, 03:58 PM   #19
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All good info here...

My standrad spread and one that will work for you in the northern gulf where we don't have the need to cover the ground many others do to find them, is 2 diving plugs and 2 surface baits. Stretches and mirrolures and marauders or islanders...

MAko's got the ticket for finding them, stick and move until you hit paydirt... Keep pulling till you hook up all your rods... Keep the rod loaded at all times wither by cranking your ace off or propoer boat handling... Once you find them in an area and they strike once, you'll often have to move to get bit again. they're likely more at a rig in the vicinity, leave and come back... If there's a lot of boats in your area that day and you're not the first to hit them at a rig, many times your SOL... try to get alone... oft happens where I feel like I'm constantly fishing behind somebody, they're on'em and I'm not, try and move in another direction to get them to yourself. Likely once they hit, they're done for a while, give'em time to rest and come back after a few hours... many times they'll hit again. A rig you pulled 10 laps on will yeild strikes on every rod out the first pass then none till you leave and come back...

One thing not mentioned here is the freaking proliferation of kings inour area. they can be so thick they won't let you fish. When this happens, the trick is to move to the high speed stuff. trolling weights in front of marauders or islanders at 15-18 knots will keep the trash off and let you select for Wahoo...

I keep going for days with these rambling thoughts... good luck...
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