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Old 03-30-2004, 08:40 PM
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Bought a pair of Cannon Sport-troll downriggers to mount on my 23 Parker CC (no bracket). I'm new at this and did not get a swivel base. Do I mount with the boom facing the stern or is there some benefit to mount so the booms face 45 deg. outboard? I also have a rod holder mounted in the gunnel a few feet from the stern where the downrigger will be mounted. Is there some advantage to use the rod holder that came with the downrigger?
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Old 03-30-2004, 09:03 PM
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Strongly suggest that you get the swivel base so that you can swing the downrigger out of the way when docking etc. etc.

The type and location of the rod holders depends on the type of fish you are targeting and the size of fishing tackle you plan on using.

Can you provide additional information?

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Old 03-30-2004, 09:12 PM
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Did the quick release bases not come with your riggers?????They should be standard..

Mounting is different in all applications.[kicker motors, swimplatforms,outboards on a bracket]

I use my sporttrolls on the quick release brackets out to the side when fishing and then position them inwards when done fishing and heading in.

My Big Jon's are on swivel bases which like Auguste,I highly reccommend..Makes life easier..
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Old 03-30-2004, 09:13 PM
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You might want to reconsider getting a set of swivel bases before you mount them. On might boat, the swivel bases are mandatory because of the Euro- transom. Straight over the rear would have required such a long boom, that falling over the transon when trying to rig them was a problem. Projecting them out over the side at some angle posed a different problem. Getting in and out of a slip or dock would have been a constant threat to the outriggers unless I removed them. The swivel bases allow me to project them straight over the rear for docking and trailering, and allow me to swing them over the side for fishing them.

I have gunnel mounted rod holders about 6" forward of the outriggers, so it was pretty natural to use those for the downriggers. If you don't already have them in the right place, then the rod holders that mount to the downriggers might be appropriate for you.
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Old 03-30-2004, 09:15 PM
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I live close to the bay and ocean. I am learning more about trolling and will troll for rock in the bay and go offshore for tuna. I use 30# and some 50# stand up gear. I was hoping not to spend the $ on a swivel base.
No kicker,swimplatform or bracket to get in the way. I also have outriggers so I'm thinking of facing the booms to stern. Never thought of docking problems, and yes the base plates are tab-lock.
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Old 03-30-2004, 09:43 PM
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I have used the Cannon electrics and don't know about the smaller sport trolls . . . However, I would check out their ability or inability to hold 50# rigs using the the downrigger's integrated rod holders . . .

My larger downrigger's manual states not to use more than 20# (I think) tackle with their rod holders . . . suggest you check your manual as 30s and 50s (I believe) are too big

Also check re maximum weights and trolling speeds

Make sure that your downrigger is securely bolted down . . . the cannon balls being trolled at a good speed can pull a downrigger off of your boat . . . embarassing and expensive

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Jersey, I have my tab brackets positioned so the rigger either faces in or out. Out for trolling and in for running and docking.....

The swivel bases on the Big Jons go anywhere you want them....8 positions.....


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You will surely regret not getting the swivel bases. I use them constantly, straight back for docking, 90 for fishing.
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I went with the Cannon HP Uni-Troll package (2). Comes with everything you need including the swivel mount. I did not mount these to my gunnels, I used the gimbal mounts instead. This makes for easy removal and no holes to drill.
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If you find the standard Cannon rod holders lacking, you might want to look into these:
http://www.vectortek.com/?id=itemview&itemid=49&catid=5
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Old 03-31-2004, 10:25 AM
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One more vote for you to get swivel bases! They make the install much more versatile. We run 4 Cannon Mag-20's on swivel bases. We run with them all pointing straight back. We fish with the transom pair straight back and the 2 on the gunnels running 90 degrees out to the sides. When we store the boat, we just pull off the downriggers using the quick release bases and toss them down below.

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tigreen - 2004-03-31 10:25 AM

One more vote for you to get swivel bases! They make the install much more versatile. We run 4 Cannon Mag-20's on swivel bases. We run with them all pointing straight back. We fish with the transom pair straight back and the 2 on the gunnels running 90 degrees out to the sides. When we store the boat, we just pull off the downriggers using the quick release bases and toss them down below.

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Yup . . . he's right, when running have all the down riggers straight back . . . never know when you have to approach another boat in an emergency or that you might forget when coming in to dock . . . expensive error
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Jim,

I have two Cannon Easi-Troll downriggers. Like others have already mentioned, I mounted the bases so that the downriggers either point straight out or straight in. I point them out to fish and point them in while I am under way. So far, it seems to work well. I thought about buying the swivel bases, but at over $80 a piece, I figured I could live without them.

Like you, I also have a boat-mounted rod holder close to each downrigger. This is nice for running two lines off one downrigger (stacking). One rod is placed the rod holder on the downrigger, and the other is in the boat-mounted rod holder.

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Old 03-31-2004, 09:52 PM
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I may not know much about downriggers, but based on the strong response from all of you, I bought the swivel bases today. Thank you all for your help.
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Good decision, Jim. I don't think you'll ever regret it.
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