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Old 03-18-2004, 10:59 PM
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Notices are going out, it's only $22 but where do the $$$'s go?


The purpose of this e-mail is to notify you of the procedures for renewing your Atlantic Tunas or Atlantic Highly Migratory Species (HMS) Permit. These permits allow you to fish for and/or retain Atlantic Bluefin, Yellowfin, Skipjack, Albacore, and Bigeye tunas or in the case of HMS Angling or Charter/Headboat Permits, to fish for, take, retain, or possess any regulated Atlantic HMS (Atlantic tunas, sharks, swordfish, or billfish). Our records indicate that you are holding an Atlantic tunas permit or an Atlantic HMS permit for the 2003 fishing year, which ends May 31, 2004. Please see the top of this email for your permit number.

Please see the attached 2004 permit renewal letter for further details on the process for renewing your permit for the upcoming season. This letter is in Microsoft Word. If you have difficulties in viewing the attachment please visit www.nmfspermits.com for further instructions.

The Atlantic tunas and HMS permitting system will soon be ready. It will start issuing permits for the 2004 season starting in late April/early May. Please wait to renew your permit until the website indicates that new permits are available.

If you have questions regarding the permit process, our Customer Service representatives are available at (888) 872-8862, Monday through Friday, from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. Eastern Time.

This email was generated by an automatic email system. Please do not reply. If you have any questions please call 888-872-8862 or visit www.nmfspermits.com .
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Old 03-18-2004, 11:32 PM
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I got mine too (email), but it dosen't sound like you can renew yet. They say...late April/Early May.

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Old 03-18-2004, 11:46 PM
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Yep, I got mine too. The $22 probably pays for the permit process...

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Old 03-19-2004, 06:45 AM
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I got mine as well. I'd guess the $ don't go toward fisheries conservation like we'd like them to. It's not like we have a choice on that one though......if you fish offshore anyway. I'd guess the $ go toward admin fees as someone mentioned above.
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Old 03-19-2004, 07:01 AM
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Great to see a reduction in the price. Yeah, can't renew just yet. Kinda crazy, they remind us, but it can't be done yet.
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Old 03-19-2004, 08:10 AM
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The 22 bucks pays for a contractor to administrate the permit program, that's it.
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Old 03-19-2004, 08:39 AM
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david is right the fee 100% goes to the company that collects the money. Maybe some goes to kickbacks or political campaign contributions. In fact you can bet on that.
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Old 03-19-2004, 10:44 PM
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Not to sidetrack the thread but .... Can you register your boat CHARTERBOAT/ HEADBOAT if it's not? I'm general catogory now because I thought that was what I wanted . Now if the GEN. cat is closed I cant legally fish for bluefins recreationally . Also I can't fish for sharks, billfish , or swordfish. I don't normally fish for swordfish ,in fact I never have but the other two I have been known to pursue .
The way the mafia oops I mean NMFS has it set up now if you fish for bluefins within the general cat. that and the other Tunas is about ALL you can fish for .
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Old 03-20-2004, 09:24 AM
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Unless you have a CG ticket, you cannot register in CHarter/Headboat...

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Old 03-20-2004, 09:32 AM
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I think that their intent was to seperate the recreational fisherman from the commercial fisherman by issuing different types of permits, with the HMS permit I don't think you're allowed to sell fish.
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Old 03-20-2004, 02:55 PM
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This permit is the height of government stupidity! They charge a small fee, on top of the other $1000's of dollars we pay to own a boat(sales tax, road tax, registration, fishing license, there is a special tax on fishing gear in Florida, etc etc.). This fee does not help fishermen or fish. Utterly ridiculous. Just another layer of bureaucracy that does nothing but cause one additional hassle.

It is a fact that the entire fee goes towards administrating the fee!? Huh?! I am sure the gubment won't allow this to go on too long like this and will raise the fee. Yes, I have one but what choice do you have because you better have it if you are stopped by the man.
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Old 03-20-2004, 03:47 PM
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The Angler permit doesn't allow you to sell, but the General and Charter/Headboat does. The most liberal one is the Charter/Headboat, but as stated above, you do have to have a capts. license to get it.
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Old 03-20-2004, 07:04 PM
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I think the fee was $22 last year as well. How about the problem last year they had to charge me for the earlier year because their computer eat the forms or something. I refused for awhile but couldn't get around it. Ended up paying for 2002 again. But later bookkeeping revealed even though I logged it in , the card was not charges.
All they have to do is collect fees and issue the permit and still they have problems.
The site was not up earlier today as Scott said.
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Old 03-23-2004, 12:58 AM
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Yea, I just got the letter/Email. HOW RETARDED are they? Send a letter notifying me of renewal, link a WEBsite to get the renewal, but if ya go to the web site it says "Not available yet"!!!

WELL WHAT THE H_LL are they mailing it out for!!! Dopey gubment!! And don't even get me started with the $22!! Next thing you know we are going to spend half the morning in line for the Inlet Tollbooth which will cost 25 cents. Ever drive down the Jersey Tpk? There's a 35 cent toll booth every 2 miles!!! What genious figured that one out???
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Old 03-23-2004, 04:39 PM
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Hey Birdman, those who can, do. Those who can't, get a gubmint hack job. What do you expect from idiots???

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Old 03-31-2004, 01:17 PM
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Birdboy, you got your roads confused. It's the Garden State Pkwy with the 35¢ tools, not the NJ Tpke.
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WildeOne - 2004-03-31 1:17 PM

Birdboy, you got your roads confused. It's the Garden State Pkwy with the 35¢ tools, not the NJ Tpke.
Either way, that state sucks!!
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