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Old 03-12-2004, 02:12 PM
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Would the Penn Baitcasting Reel 945 be too small for kings? I found 2 brand new ones at WalMart on close out for $20 each so I just scooped them up`
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Whats the line capacity of the 945's with 20# test? To me that may be the biggest consideration, as you fight the fish very lightly, but often need lots of line.
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Old 03-12-2004, 02:28 PM
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Is it rated for 205 yard of 12 lb. I was probably going to put Power Pro 20 lb or Spiderwire on it. My assumptions are I could probably get 150 to 175 yard on it.
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Old 03-12-2004, 03:21 PM
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A 10-15 lb king, much less a 25 pounder would spool that thing before you could get your boat turned around. I would rather put 240 yards of 10 lb test on that thing with a FC shock leader. At least that way you would have a snowballs chance. If you are shopping at Walmart you would be better suited to pick up one of the Shakespeare tidewater levelwind reels and put 400 yards of 17lb test on it. Might cost you all of 45 bucks for the reel and the line. ITs not a penn or shimano by any stretch but at least you would not be hunting for bear with a bb gun. Wait a minute, the firearm discussion is already going on.
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Carolina Sunshine - 2004-03-12 1:12 PM

Would the Penn Baitcasting Reel 945 be too small for kings? I found 2 brand new ones at WalMart on close out for $20 each so I just scooped them up`
Nope. Not enough capacity. Save them for casting.
You need a reel with higher capacity. I'm using Penn Squidders.
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Old 03-12-2004, 05:03 PM
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That is what I thought. I have 4 TLD 25 with roller quides, I just want to see how light a tackel I could get away with. What the heck they were $120 reels for $20. I let the kids bottom fish with them.
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I've used my 965's for live baiting kings. Don't know what the capacity is off the top of my head but it was a lot of fun catching school kings up to 17 lb on the light setup.
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Old 03-12-2004, 10:29 PM
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the 25's are way overkill.
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Old 03-12-2004, 11:10 PM
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I have a pair of Penn 245 LD reels matched up on Penn Power stick 7' rods. Reels are spooled with about 350 yards of 25# line. So far this has been a great set up for me. What a great deal you got on those penn's at Walmart.
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Old 03-13-2004, 09:15 AM
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Try something in between your TLD 25's and the baitcasters. If you read some of the posts that deal with king fishing on this board, you'll see that the techniques do seem to vary depending on your location. Here in NC, we tend to favor lighter line and tackle, whereas in the gulf they generally go bigger. Not 100% sure why the variation, but i'm guessing it has a little to do with the average size of the critters. still you'd feel like a steaming pile of doodie after you just watched your baitcaster get spooled by a schoolie sized king. OTOH - catching a 12 -15# king on a TLD 25 doesn't sound like much of a challenge. Try a TLD 15 on a long limber live bait rod.
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Old 03-13-2004, 10:42 AM
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TLD 15 or Penn 545 .... with 20/25# test. Use powerpro or equivalent if you want more line capacity. Put them on a good 7' rod with a soft tip.
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If you want to stay with Penn, I'd go with the 545's. With Shimano, I'd go Trinidad, Torium or Speedmaster. Of all these, the Speedmaster is the least expensive and is an excellent reel for king fishing.
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Old 03-17-2004, 09:26 AM
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Penn 209-309-310-320-330??? I use the 330's, great luck!
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Avet MXL 6.3. Perfect size and gear ratio. Load it with 50lb Spectra and 30lb mono topshot and you'll be set.
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Question for you king fishing experts...

Fishguts took me out of Ocean Isle Beach, NC last year and put me on my first king! I was amazed and how lightly the drags are set for that type of fishing. What is the thinking behind that? Is it due to the fact that you are trolling w/ live bait or do the kings have have "fragile" mouths (it didn't look like it to me).

Also, I'm gonna target them myself this summer when I go to the beach again w/ my own rig. I've currently got four Penn 320 GTis. Two are spooled w/ 25 lb. ANDE mono and the other two have 30 lb. ANDE mono. I've got them set up on 20 - 40 lb. Penn Senator rods for trolling stripers in the Chesapeake. I'm guessing I probably have 280 yds. or so of 25 lb. line and 250 or so of the 30 lb. Do you guys think this will be adequate or should I pick up some extra spools to line w/ 17 or 20 lb. test so I can get 320 yds. plus?

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gw 204...

You'll get a lot of opinions on your question!

Light drag?...If you're using live bait rigs, you're using L774F # 6 hooks. really small, the king can pull hooks w/heavy drag. Set drag at 3#, w/3-1# weights.

Bait?...you didn't ask, but use dead cigar minnows, live cigar minnows, pinfish (cut off top fin w/scissors), small black bass, frozen whole squid, spanish mackeral, preferred...menhaden, but hard to keep unless you have a really good round livewell.

Tackle?...7' rods w/light action tips (keeps from jerking bait around), reels...like to have 400 yd capacity of 15-17 pound line. No levelwinds, notorious for locking up when fish runs.

The above works for kings, barracuda, cobia, sailfish, dolphin, and, unfortunately, sharks.
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Old 03-25-2004, 01:57 PM
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Thanks fish but where are all the other opinions you said I'd get????

Anyway, I'm unloading two of my 320s for some TLD20s to spool up with 30 lb. mono. I know it's not the ideal setup but I have to use these trolling big, heavy stuff in the Chesapeake for stripers. So I'm going to take my chances with the other two 320's spooled w/ 25 lb. when I get there and hope for the best. Hell, I might just pull the level wind prior to the trip. The rest of the reel should hold up.

My rods are 6'6" 20 - 40 lb. Penn Senators. Probably a bit stiff on the tip for what you guy like, but again they work good for my usual type of fishing.

Last time, Fishguts (Brian) used Menhaden (he called 'em pogies or something like that) and a few cigar minnows his son jigged up while we were trolling. Brian knows his stuff. We were on fish within 5 minutes of getting started and got hook ups steadily throughout the day. I was impressed. We ran the beach and he threw a cast net to get the live menhaden. I'm going to try and rig up some sort of livewell prior to my trip and get some practice w/ a cast net. If not, I'll just buy bait when I get down there.

I'll be proud of myself if I can just get out there and get some hookups. The main thing will be getting away from the in-laws....

Thanks for the info.
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gw204,

If you are like me you like to use your own equipment to catch fish, but I think you will frustrate yourself using those heavy rods trying for kings with live bait. The rods will stress the bait and mostly likely rip the hook from the mouth on the take if the tip doesn't give. You are welcome to borrow my king rods for your visit. Let me know when you are coming.

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www.fishdance.net/kingfish_kollege.htm
This should give you some good techniques on kingfish and tackle setup.
I usually fish exclusively with ribbon fish (cutlass) on a double/triple treble setup. IMHO, nothing else comes close for trolling/drifting.
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Old 03-25-2004, 05:13 PM
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There are alot of variations on "the best" way to king fish. Do youself a favor and go buy Dave Workman's video on kingfishing, it will be the best $20 you have spent. Covers the whole thing soup to nuts. Once you get up and catching, start to experiment a little. Good luck.

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