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Old 05-22-2007, 07:59 PM
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anybody here who had been a yamaha fan and switched over to etec's ? if so, what were your thoughts?

comparisons and comments on speed, fuel efficiency, durability, volume etc. would be much appreciated.
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Old 05-22-2007, 08:21 PM
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etec wins in all test. dont even bother looking at a yammadog
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Old 05-22-2007, 08:47 PM
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tax free, you've owned both?
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Old 05-22-2007, 09:27 PM
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Yammy with no question. e-tec is a good motor but is no four stroke. Yammy is bullet proof.
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Old 05-22-2007, 09:31 PM
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He's pulling your yoke. The only test e-tech's win hands down in are e-tech commercials. Maybe you could look at the power boat reports comparing all the engines and get an idea (hint, e-tec didn't lead the pack, but didn't do poorly).

Actually the engines are very comparable, and the differences are more in what you perceive as important, rather than a black and white answer.

If you are repowering and have yammies currently, there are some good reasons to stick with yammie. If you are buying new and the builder doesn't care, it may be more of an even playing field but in general, the e-tec's will cost more hp for hp. They are charging a premium for some reason. E-tec may also not have the resale value of a 4 stroke.

Search the main forum, there are hundreds of posts on the subject.
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Old 05-22-2007, 09:37 PM
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Interesting Thread... Forgive my ignorance, but what makes the E-tec's price more than other 2-strokes.. I guess im asking is what sets this motor above other 2-strokes as far as the way it is constructed
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I don't know, it's just what local dealers were charging up here. The 150 e-tec was about $2k-$3k/engine more than the F150 (I was comparing them to 4-strokes, not other hp 2 strokes). That may equalize over time, price them out but be sure to get complete costs.

Don't forget you also want their newer digital gauge system which is very pricey, and you need e-tec oil tanks (your existing ones won't be compatible) - 4 strokes don't need tanks. I also would have also needed a different steering cylinder since the one I had wasn't compatible. But those were added rigging expenses on top of the raw cost diff of the engines.

I'm not bashing the e-tecs, they will be good engines once they grow up, but they aren't the right engine for everyone (and neither are yammies).
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Old 05-22-2007, 09:48 PM
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Yea, i think the way the e-tec is built is proberly better than your average 2 stroke (less moving parts) But that still is a new motor considering the other 2 stroke from yammie and other manafactures has done pretty good so far, as time will tell with e-tec. What throws me away from e-tec is the way jonson\evenrude built there other 2 strokes in the past. Maybe e-tec has something going on for them selfs as far as design goes. I am a four stroke guy, as for resale they will be worth more than 2 stroke in resale no mater what.
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Old 05-22-2007, 10:05 PM
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I love my 2-stroke Yammi, mainly b/c I am familiar with it and it runs like a champ, so far..... I have no experience with any 4-stroke or E-tec.

Funny Story....I asked a Sea Pro salesman on Saturday if I could get a 2-stroke instead of a four and I thought ( expected) him to say no problem, we have the Optimax but instead he looked at me as if I was a flake. He said it would require a large deposit to order a boat with a 2-stroke. I then noticed that every boat had a Verado on it. May have something to do with re-sale or just simply selling ....
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Old 05-22-2007, 10:17 PM
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I had yammie 2 stokes on my first grady and let me tell you i beat the sh!t out of them and i could not kill them if i tryed. Yes i see all boats (new one) with mainley four strokes on them. I have been on boats with e-tec, yammie,and other motors but, never beenon a boat with a vervado. How are those vevado's? ARE they gas guzzlers?
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Old 05-22-2007, 10:18 PM
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right on, some good answers.

my main concern is durability on minimal maintenance. my last yamahas were 7 years old, had been underwater twice, and ran hard here in Costa Rica sometimes 250 days a year, uncountable thousands of hours along with my rough maintenance habbits...and they are still running. i think that over everything else is what is going to have me going with yamahas, but i did want to hear from some guys who could compare from past experience with both under similar conditions.

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Old 05-22-2007, 10:38 PM
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Before I purchase my Blazer, I asked around for opinions regarding 4-strokes and I would say that it was 60 - 40 Against the four stroke. I know im just one person and i spoke to a minute percentage of thr boating populous but this is mainly what was told to me...The better gas mileage issue was not enough to concern yourself with after the initial cost of the motor and maintenance cost ( of the 4-stroke ). The 2-strokes torque was severly missed. But they all loved the quietness of the 4-stroke. All of this came from 4-stroke owners, mostly Yamaha. Not bashing 4-strokes by any means, just my own crude poll taken from about 20 or 30 4-stroke owners. This was back in 2004. I did talk to an E-TEC owner recently that loved his motor, I think it was a 90 h.p. That Verado is a BULKY motor, at least it seams big, may be just me
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i have switched from yamahas to e-tecs . my twn 200 evinrudes so far have been great & they have been in the shop only one time & that was for the 300 hr service. i still have 2 yamahas a 90 & a 130. my last ten engines i bought before the e-tecs were yamahas so no evinrude homer here . i like to buy the best engine for my purpose i can at the time i am buying. right now i am looking for a new 150 & there are alot of good 150 hp engines on the market right now. i am in no big hurry so i will reserch the best i can and buy what is the best 150 for my needs.
gerg i have not found the 2000 to 3000 dollar price difference between the e-tec & the yamaha & honda 4 strokes it has been more like a 1000 dollar differance.there is approx. a 2000 dollar differance between the e-tec & the suzuki 150. i have not priced a verado 150 yet but i will in the next week or 2.
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Old 05-25-2007, 12:36 AM
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I just watch all the Etech challenger video. Especially the tug of war one where the Yamaha went swimming.

Etec wins hands down.


By the way how much are etec injection oil again?
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Old 05-25-2007, 08:56 AM
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Interesting Thread... Forgive my ignorance, but what makes the E-tec's price more than other 2-strokes.. I guess im asking is what sets this motor above other 2-strokes as far as the way it is constructed



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I bet they're both good engines, but when it comes to the day of resale, I would suspect most people would prefer the 4 stroke Yamaha's over the E-Tecs.
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Old 05-25-2007, 09:24 AM
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Whats the dealer/repair shop and parts situation in Costa Rica? I wanted a new E-tech, but went with a Yammie carbed 2-stroke because I know I can fix it myself in most cases. A month waiting for parts for a boat I can't use would cost me a lot more than the worse gas mileage of the carbed 2 stroke.

Several of my friends here run fishing charter businesses, running 3-5 boats each, seven days a week year-round. When I was trying to decide which engine to spec on a new boat, I asked them about their choices. They all told me they went to the 4-stroke "advantage" a couple years ago, but now most of them are back to 2-strokes and Yamaha 4-strokes when its time for them to re-power yet again. Yammies probably 75% of the market in this little third world country simply because of reliability and ease of repair. Being out of commission costs these guys $800-$1000/day/boat.

But if I could have counted on good local service with trained mechanics and a big parts inventory, the E-tech would be on my boat today.
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Old 05-25-2007, 11:30 PM
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i went with a pair of yamaha 4 strokes mainly because i know that there isn't another motor out there that would have survived what i put the last pair through...i'm pretty confident i'll be just as satisfied.
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Just thank your stars you don't have ethanol blends to deal with. My 2 strokes would still be running if it weren't for that carp.

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