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Old 10-16-2020, 12:18 PM
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Plan to get some experience fishing on Puerto Rico (father's boat), not really far from shore but on a boat.
Not all the time at the island so not looking at something too expensive but will be there for Christmas and plan to gift them to my father when i leave. Something easy to maintain would be great.

What would you recommend for a good starting rod/reel combo (maybe up to 2 combos), up to 300 per reel and rod, or maybe up to 500 for 2 different combos?

I have been looking and see good things about the Ugly Stik and Daiwa BG and also about TLD, but not sure what specific combination to get of each.

Some things i look at:
  • Daiwa BG5000 / Ugly Stik Tiger Elite Spinning Fishing Rod, 7'

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What will you be targeting fish wise? The B&G will be fine but size will matter depending what you're fishing for.
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BG 5k is fine, I have it!, medium size 23oz with 40-50lb j-braid x8 is versatile...(30lb braid?=16oz as bg 4k or shimano 6k)
But if you fish in the bottom 250-360ft/light jigging you may be interested in something slower but more powerful with 4.9 ratio(vs fast 5.7) as LETHAL 60-80, SOCORRO 10k or SEDONA 8k (stronger lethal, softer Shimanos).
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I have a couple of BGs and really like them. Those are nice reels.
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Honestly not sure as we are just starting, but want the option to handle a decent variety, probably fishing on some reefs 20' to 70' deep. and maybe some trolling. I dont think anything over 100pounds normally.
Would a BG 6000 with a 6.6 Tiger Rod be better?
What could complement this for casting? TLD (or equivalent ) with what rod?
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And here is my suggestion if you are going to purchase two outfits.
Think in terms of medium, medium heavy and heavy tackle.
For medium I'd suggest a Daiwa BG3000 with a rod rated for 7 - 15 lbs. test.
For medium heavy a Daiwa BG 5000 with a rod rated for 10-20 lb. test
For heavy a Shimano TLD 15 or 20 with a rod rated for 40-60 lb. test.
I like St. Croix rods but they may be on the upper end of your price range.
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Originally Posted by tarpononecharter View Post
And here is my suggestion if you are going to purchase two outfits.
Think in terms of medium, medium heavy and heavy tackle.
For medium I'd suggest a Daiwa BG3000 with a rod rated for 7 - 15 lbs. test.
For medium heavy a Daiwa BG 5000 with a rod rated for 10-20 lb. test
For heavy a Shimano TLD 15 or 20 with a rod rated for 40-60 lb. test.
I like St. Croix rods but they may be on the upper end of your price range.
Thanks,
Looking at
  • Daiwa BG 5000
    • Which of the following would be the best pair:
      • Ugly Stik Tiger Elite Spinning Rod, 7', 14-40lbs (HEAVY)
      • Ugly Stik Tiger Elite Spinning Rod, 6.9', 10-25lbs (MEDIUM)
      • Ugly Stik Tiger Elite Spinning Rod, 6.6', 12-30lbs (MEDIUM HEAVY)
      • Other?
  • TLD15/20/25
    • Which reel would be best? 20 and 25 look pretty similar, 15 has different gear ratio.
    • Which of the following would be the best pair:
      • Ugly Stik Tiger Elite Jig Casting Rod, 6.6', 50-100lbs (HEAVY)
      • Ugly Stik Tiger Elite Jig Casting Rod, 6.3', 50-100lbs (HEAVY)
      • Other?
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I really don't know much about Ugly Stick rods. They used to be inexpensive and poor quality and I don't know what "Tiger Elite" adds to the product.
I personally believe the rod is more important than the reel. You can have a $1,000 Stella reel and a broomstick for a rod and if you can't feel the bite you'll never catch the fish.
When I first started fishing I bought great reels and good rods. I now buy great rods and good reels.
And finally I look at the weight that I am going to be holding and casting all day. 10 extra ounces may not sound like much but cast that extra 10 ounces 200 times over 8 hours
and it matters.
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I do more inshore casting so my all around rod and reel is a B&G 4000 on a St. Croix Mojo inshore. Great little setup and the 4000 is a big 4000.
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Originally Posted by jakama View Post
Plan to get some experience fishing on Puerto Rico (father's boat), not really far from shore but on a boat.
Not all the time at the island so not looking at something too expensive but will be there for Christmas and plan to gift them to my father when i leave. Something easy to maintain would be great.

What would you recommend for a good starting rod/reel combo (maybe up to 2 combos), up to 300 per reel and rod, or maybe up to 500 for 2 different combos?

I have been looking and see good things about the Ugly Stik and Daiwa BG and also about TLD, but not sure what specific combination to get of each.

Some things i look at:
  • Daiwa BG5000 / Ugly Stik Tiger Elite Spinning Fishing Rod, 7'
$103 from Amazon“The Daiwa BG SW and medium or medium-heavy Ugly Stik GX2 combination is more versatile and durable than anything else in the same price range. Spending less means losing out on long-term durability; spending more means you’re paying for features designed for specific kinds of fishing, or lighter-weight materials that are nice to have but unnecessary for a general-purpose fishing setup. (Daiwa’s 1500–2500 models are ideal for small trout streams but can also handle light inshore fishing for spotted seatrout and flounder, while the larger 5000 and 8000 models will handle larger inshore species and perhaps even small tuna and dolphinfish.)”
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I don't know about the Daiwas but the TLDs are very easy to service and are very durable. I have a pair of 25s since 2003 and they've never had more than a hose wash until this year and are in perfect shape. I took them down this spring, cleaned, lubed, added carbon drags and better handles and they're like brand new reels.
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Originally Posted by jakama View Post
Thanks,
Looking at
  • Daiwa BG 5000
    • Which of the following would be the best pair:
      • Ugly Stik Tiger Elite Spinning Rod, 7', 14-40lbs (HEAVY)
      • Ugly Stik Tiger Elite Spinning Rod, 6.9', 10-25lbs (MEDIUM)
      • Ugly Stik Tiger Elite Spinning Rod, 6.6', 12-30lbs (MEDIUM HEAVY)
      • Other?
  • TLD15/20/25
    • Which reel would be best? 20 and 25 look pretty similar, 15 has different gear ratio.
    • Which of the following would be the best pair:
      • Ugly Stik Tiger Elite Jig Casting Rod, 6.6', 50-100lbs (HEAVY)
      • Ugly Stik Tiger Elite Jig Casting Rod, 6.3', 50-100lbs (HEAVY)
      • Other?
4000 series Daiwa with 7 foot Ugly
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Why not purchase them in PR?
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Originally Posted by nfairbank View Post
Why not purchase them in PR?
Last time i was there local shop recommended the tld and to buy it online maybe used and bring to the shop for spool and setup, dont have a lot of time in the island so want to have it delivered or pick up at a store.
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I currently use the TLDs for Striper fishing dragging umbrellas and near shore trolling, I spooled with 50lb fireline. I plan on getting 80# Jerry brown hollow core and adding mono topshots so I'm not having braid and the danger of braid with a big fish at boat side, I frequently troll by myself and fish with less that experienced crew and I don't want anyone grabbing tight braid and getting cut.
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The TLD 20 and 25 are basically the same reel aside from line capacity. The TLD 25 holds a little more. Both are great reels. I use my 25s for trolling for dolphin and sailfish.

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