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These are some “quality” parts from my Fin Nor Santiago which was supposed to compete with Shimano Tiagra. I have tried to contact Fin Nor for parts with no luck. They were bought by Pure Fishing. Any suggestions on how I can get parts? Thanks



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Do you wash it down and let it dry after use?
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Seriously? Of course, but you can’t easily wash the inside and chrome plated steel is not a good material, should be stainless parts
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Maybe used reels on ebay? But if the inside of yours looks like they might to.
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Maybe used reels on ebay? But if the inside of yours looks like they might to.
cheaper to buy a new Tiagra
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Anyone out there got parts laying around?
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Pure owns Abu Garcia, Fenwick, Mitchell, Penn, Shakespeare, Stren, Fin-Nor, Van Staal and a lot more. Hope they don't dumb them all down.
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Originally Posted by Ken T View Post
Pure owns Abu Garcia, Fenwick, Mitchell, Penn, Shakespeare, Stren, Fin-Nor, Van Staal and a lot more. Hope they don't dumb them all down.
agreed, interesting my first one was very reliable and the second two are crap...?
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It was good talking with you today Will....sorry I cannot be of any help with your FinNors. Looking forward to getting your Shimano reels in for a service!

Folks, I just got off the phone with the OP, and I shared with him what I was finding in many of the reels that Pure Fishing is involved in. After the latest buyout I regret to say that I am down to just a few Penn reels that I will service....and all of the rest of those reels that Ken listed, with the possible exception of VanStaal, are all China sourced. Many are reels I wont bring into the shop. For me to do a service and then have to charge a customer for an equal amount of parts needed is uncomfortable for me. I would just as soon lose that business.

What Penn did to the Senator 113 is criminal. Cheap Chinese stainless and screws and a design that if you overtighten the bridge screws the anti-reverse will stop working. That reel used to be the most sold reel ever. And one that you could pass on down to your grandkids.....but not anymore. The newer AbuGarcia Ambassadeurs that are China made are also horrible reels. I could go on, but wont.
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Seems like a good time for me to get this out too - I bought a pair of Penn squall 60ld combos. About a year or so ago. Granted - these combos are not top of the line gear nor top of the line prices. But they weren’t the bottom either. I get offshore 3-4 times a year these days and just needed a few extra trolling set ups. After 2 trips in about 1 year the reel seat on one rod came completely loose. Took pictures and sent to the warranty dept at Pure Fishing. Warranty dept said they’d give me a discount on a surf rod - no thanks. Also, the handle on the reel on the other set up came off. I couldn’t figure out how to get it back on. So I sent it to Rick and he fixed it (as he always does with super maximum customer service) Essentially it needed lock tight - meaning the reel was designed to be glued together. Think about that - my cheap Chinese reel came unglued. The Penn name means nothing for new reels anymore. Penn gear is as cheap as some no name China crap on Amazon. I’ll give Avet my business going forward - made in the USA. It is a damn shame.
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Seems like a good time for me to get this out too - I bought a pair of Penn squall 60ld combos. About a year or so ago. Granted - these combos are not top of the line gear nor top of the line prices. But they weren’t the bottom either. I get offshore 3-4 times a year these days and just needed a few extra trolling set ups. After 2 trips in about 1 year the reel seat on one rod came completely loose. Took pictures and sent to the warranty dept at Pure Fishing. Warranty dept said they’d give me a discount on a surf rod - no thanks. Also, the handle on the reel on the other set up came off. I couldn’t figure out how to get it back on. So I sent it to Rick and he fixed it (as he always does with super maximum customer service) Essentially it needed lock tight - meaning the reel was designed to be glued together. Think about that - my cheap Chinese reel came unglued. The Penn name means nothing for new reels anymore. Penn gear is as cheap as some no name China crap on Amazon. I’ll give Avet my business going forward - made in the USA. It is a damn shame.
My experience is 100% OPPOSITE on Squalls, Spinfishers & Fathoms, I have 2 dozen of various sizes, and they ALL work flawlessly, and they get used regularly. Have yet to have a single part break. From Squall 50vsw’s to Fathom 40 high speeds for kites to my single speed Squall 40’s & 60’s lever drags, they have been ansolutely awesome.

My buddy with his Aver’s cannot say the same. I have been impressed with some of his smaller Okuma’s the newer smaller conventionals have been really good to him. Shimano probably has best overall consistent quality, but I have loved my Penn’s since I got all of them over the last 5 or 6 years.
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My experience is 100% OPPOSITE on Squalls, Spinfishers & Fathoms, I have 2 dozen of various sizes, and they ALL work flawlessly, and they get used regularly. Have yet to have a single part break. From Squall 50vsw’s to Fathom 40 high speeds for kites to my single speed Squall 40’s & 60’s lever drags, they have been ansolutely awesome.

My buddy with his Aver’s cannot say the same. I have been impressed with some of his smaller Okuma’s the newer smaller conventionals have been really good to him. Shimano probably has best overall consistent quality, but I have loved my Penn’s since I got all of them over the last 5 or 6 years.
maybe they are pre China made...?

We are saying if you were to buy these brands today you’d be dissapointed

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vp of marketing/sales, guy is a dishonest prick, call him and let him know how you feel

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Jon Schlosser
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vp of marketing/sales, guy is a dishonest prick, call him and let him know how you feel

I will, thank you. I left messages for several of their leadership already. No call back yet
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Holy crap, I haven't seen the inside of a reel look like that in 20 years! I would be concerned that the replacement parts will be of the same material and net the same results. I really hate to say this but if I were you I'd cut my losses and replace those reels with Avets or Shimano.

Man, what timing, I was going to start a Penn thread on small spinning reels (SSVIs specifically) and declining quality...I've been a Penn fan-boy my whole life...darn shame.
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Seriously? Of course, but you can’t easily wash the inside and chrome plated steel is not a good material, should be stainless parts
How old is that reel and how often was it taken apart and cleaned and serviced? I know you sprayed it down, but it looks like there was a lack of regular maintenance internally. There is a lot of rust there. Also, did you make certain that the drags were fully engaged when spraying the reel down to prevent water from entering the reel? Agree that is a mess, good luck, I hope you can get them serviced.
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How old is that reel and how often was it taken apart and cleaned and serviced? I know you sprayed it down, but it looks like there was a lack of regular maintenance internally. There is a lot of rust there. Also, did you make certain that the drags were fully engaged when spraying the reel down to prevent water from entering the reel? Agree that is a mess, good luck, I hope you can get them serviced.
A year old, so no I haven’t opened it until it broke. Do you open your Tiagras more often than every 2 years? I know guys that have never opened theirs Which I’m guessing is more the rule than the exception.
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wow, I had zebcos that looked better than that.

once again companies selling out to crap china manufacturing yet still charging the premium price based on teh brand name.

thanks guys for pointing this out.

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Buy used reels from back when they were made to last a lifetime.
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A year old, so no I haven’t opened it until it broke. Do you open your Tiagras more often than every 2 years? I know guys that have never opened theirs Which I’m guessing is more the rule than the exception.
That is hard to look at there.

An excuse looking for an apology.

The quality of so many things has just disappeared.

I bought an old Penn 12 h at a church sale. 75 clams and sounded like a coffee grinder. Only made 1979-80?
I got it because they made maybe 3000 and the h or hi speed far fewer.

It was absolutely used and used HARD. The handle has maybe 3/8" of wobble.

I took it down. The gears were worn hard. The bearings were unhappy. The clicker spring was toast.

It looked mint compared to that.



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