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Old 10-03-2020, 07:02 PM
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I'm looking to purchase a Shimano Beast Master for deep dropping. The new 900A version that came out in 2000 retails in local tackle stores for $1,399. The version prior was the 900 and for some reason the tackle store says the 900 retails for more money $1,499.

Now if you look on Ebay you can get the 2018 version 2000 for $720.

What are the differences in these different versions and is there a reason why I shouldn't buy the 2018 version for $720 which is half the price of the latest version?
Old 10-04-2020, 06:36 AM
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The one that came out in 2019 has better guts. It's also in English not Japanese.
Old 10-04-2020, 07:16 AM
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This one is $720 why such a huge price difference?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Shimano-18-...b5429735aa035a
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I think you are comparing the 9000 to the smaller 2000 size.
Old 10-05-2020, 03:16 PM
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Newer one has stronger motor, but its still not a sword reel.
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Stronger motor, beefed up internals and if I'm not mistaken, they have different programming in "R" mode that is a little more intuitive with resistance.

Originally Posted by aquaholic23 View Post
Newer one has stronger motor, but its still not a sword reel.
They work. This was caught on the new 9000a. I have a buddy that has over half a dozen already this year on his, fish over 200 lbs, as well as multiple stud bigeye. Don't want to share his pics without his consent.

Key is expectations. It's not a reel you will expect to flip into retrieve like an LP and haul the fish in. Suits me fine for now but I believe next year we will upgrade to a Hooker.

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Originally Posted by EricF View Post
I think you are comparing the 9000 to the smaller 2000 size.
So the older models are smaller? I thought all beast masters had the same line capacity ?
Old 10-06-2020, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by b1gdog83 View Post
So the older models are smaller? I thought all beast masters had the same line capacity ?
There is only one (1) Beastmaster model currently - Beastmaster 9000A. Shimano's other electric reels are called Forcemaster, which come in two sizes - 6000 and 9000. While the capacity and specs of the forcemaster 9000 and the beastmaster 9000A are comparable, the beastmaster is a far superior electric reel when it comes to components, motors, etc. The Beastmaster 9000A came out in late 2019 (i believe) and replaced the Beastmaster 9000, which is no longer in production. As previously stated, there were numerous upgrades made to the BM9000a from the BM9000

Also, I personally would not be buying reels off Ebay, especially electric reels. You don't know their condition and there are a lot more complex than a standard reel. Not to mention a lot more expensive. Also, its not a good sign if there are mistakes in the title and description of the product. Do what you want, but you also came to THT for our opinions.

After doing some additional googling... it looks like the beastmaster 2000 is an asian specific model. I personally would not risk spending $700+ on ebay to buy some questionable foreign electric reel. If cost is a concern look for diawa or banax. Both can be bought stateside for comparable prices. Frigate Sales (THT sponsor) is a great place to start looking at a banax.
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The problem i had with my beast master was after a few hour fight the drag wasnt what it used to be, its like a cheap star drag, is it ok for 100 lb or 200lb sword sure , but what happens when you hook a real one, i use my beast master for tile fish and i bought a hooker, but i will say the beasmaster never let me down , but i do think i would have shortend a few fights if i had the hooker last year,
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Originally Posted by aquaholic23 View Post
The problem i had with my beast master was after a few hour fight the drag wasnt what it used to be, its like a cheap star drag, is it ok for 100 lb or 200lb sword sure , but what happens when you hook a real one, i use my beast master for tile fish and i bought a hooker, but i will say the beasmaster never let me down , but i do think i would have shortend a few fights if i had the hooker last year,
They did upgrade the drag. A lot of it is user expectations and technique. Like I said, you have to assist the line on the reel with your hand. I prefer this because it gives you a feel of what the fish is doing and how it is reacting. I agree, something 300-400 lbs wouldn't be pretty on a BM but it has been done. As I also mentioned, I have a buddy who is a wizard with his and has boated some really big fish. He also fishes the old 9000 version.

I want to go to a Hooker with detachable motor because we have a lot of guests who want to hand crank the fish.
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Even with the LPs I am fishing 12-15lbs of drag after the hook set and using the weight to drive the fish to the service. We've put multiple 300lb fish in the boat using this technique. Doesn't work 100% of the time but more often than not. Where the Beast Master will fail you is when you get locked into a damn big-eye thresher or similar deep water shark that sits deeps and either exhausts itself to the point of not moving or dies. Then you play the game of 800lb sword or 300lb shark?
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Originally Posted by Touche View Post
Even with the LPs I am fishing 12-15lbs of drag after the hook set and using the weight to drive the fish to the service. We've put multiple 300lb fish in the boat using this technique. Doesn't work 100% of the time but more often than not. Where the Beast Master will fail you is when you get locked into a damn big-eye thresher or similar deep water shark that sits deeps and either exhausts itself to the point of not moving or dies. Then you play the game of 800lb sword or 300lb shark?
That's really where the BM has issues. More and more people are finding that running high drag on these fish doesn't work. I run 25 lbs of drag at strike then back it down to hand feel. I suspect I'm probably around 15 lbs or so. It's amazing how they tend to come right up with the weight.

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