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Old 09-10-2020, 05:03 PM
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So I have learned to make wind-on leaders, no problem. And I double my double my main line to attach the wind-on. So the question is...... Once I really put some pressure on that connection where the wind-on meets the double line, will I still be able to easily undo the connections or will it cinch tight forever?

Reason I ask is I have a couple combos that are going to double duty your yellowfin tuna fishing and swordfishing. So I want to be able to remove the heavier mono wind-on and replace it with a lighter flourocarbon wind-on while out fishing and changing up tactics. So far the cat's paw connection that attaches the wind-on to the main line comes undone easily to swap leaders. I just wasn't sure if that would still be the case once I hook into something solid.
Old 09-10-2020, 05:07 PM
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Dacron/spectra windons work primarily like Chinese handcuffs.

some people glue the ins and outs, some don’t.

the glued ones don’t come a parts.
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Yeah I understand that part. The Wind-on has a loop in the end of the braid to attach to a loop in the main line with a loop to loop connections. That's the connections I'm wondering if I will be able to get apart again.
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That is a high class problem to have

The worst thing you will have to do is cut your main braided line's loop and fish it out from the wind-on. Tie a new loop and cats paw to the other wind-on. Is that as easy as slipping it off, no... but thats worst case scenario. You should not need to cut the wind-on's loop.
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Is your mainline mono or braid? Braid to braid loop to loop probably will never untie, loop in mono to braid wind-on usually will free up without cutting. No need to catspaw (offshore) knot as a simple loop to loop is plenty strong. I suggest you test your connection (while still on land) at twice your drag setting
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On a loop to loop connection, if you don't use the cat paw and instead just go thru the loop one time, the connection can be undone easily. I have never found a need to do the cat paw and just go thru the loop one time. Easily undone and the loop to loop leader can be saved and use another time.
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To free up the loop to loop simply pull the loop on the wind-on straight on each side of the braid connection until loop hitch pops over. Then slide the hitch side to side on the wind-on loop to loosen it up enough to grab it with your fingernail. I do it all the time with no issue.
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Everyone has their way that works, but you should be able to remove the leader, for me its the whole purpose of using a loop to loop is to change out easily and quick if needed... I run braid on my reel with a mono top shot spliced in and a spliced loop on the wind on end of my mono...so my wind on is loop to loop...I only use this setup for wahoo or tuna. My reels are spooled with 200lb JB with a 130lb mono top shot and use 200lb braid for my loop splices so it's a bit easier to change out with a heavier braid...
For wahoo and tuna, I use tiagra 80's and my set up works for me as I can change out from high speed to meat, planers or just lures pretty easy. My smaller reels I Mahi fish with I run straight mono with ball bearing snap swivels....
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just loop to loop once and make sure the braid and dacron loop tighten up on the legs of each eye / loop that way it will be able to be changed out when required and the braid will not cut thru the dacron
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I use a rigging needle and a bunch of spit.

Slobber the connection up real good then stick the needle straight through the middle and work it back and forth. I do this with spliced loop hollow but if its non-hollow i'll just cut the line and retie a bimini.
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It is hollow braid main line so i spliced a loop to do a loop to loop connection with the wind on. I took above advice and skipped the cat's paw and just looped one time and it does seem much easier to undo. Kmoose, pulling the side of the loop apart really does break that connection real quick.....great tip! Thanks for the replies.
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We change out loop to loop connections on our shark rigs all the time, single loop not cats paw, pretty easy. Main line loop is 100 lb hollow, the wind on loop is whatever dacron fits the 500 lb mono, but it's a lot larger than the main line loop. Since our drag at strike is set to 35lb we put a lot of pressure on that connection and they are really tight after a fish has been on. Pulling the loops out to the side 90 degrees from the line direction frees them every time.
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Do 1 loop to attach the windon. Pull both sides of the leader loop section, then pull on both sides of the mainline loop section. You can then pick it apart and swap it out. No reason to do more than 1 loop. I do 1 loop for jigging/popping bluefin tuna. Never an issue.
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when i need to swap out wind-on, it is usually because the flouro/mono is beat to hell. instead of messing around with rigging needles, i simply cut the small loop on the leader and it pulls right out.
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I would just cut the main line, preserving the wind on and when you need to reattach, just put a new loop in the end of the mainline. My mainline in this case is 100lb braid and tying a new bimini and reattaching the loop to loop is easy.
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Originally Posted by jshelton View Post
I would just cut the main line, preserving the wind on and when you need to reattach, just put a new loop in the end of the mainline. My mainline in this case is 100lb braid and tying a new bimini and reattaching the loop to loop is easy.
He's using hollow for the main so probably not using a Bimini twist for the loop. I redo our main line loops (hollow with the needle) when they need it which isn't very often...

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