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Old 09-08-2020, 06:47 AM
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For the longest time I've used a snelled connection with 40 to 80 pound fluorocarbon to circle hooks. Over the weekend I had 2 or 3 leaders (40 and 50) break at the hook. Yes I could have been putting too much heat to them but still want to see what else I can try.......BTW when I do tie a knot I use the trilene knot which seems to tighten into a more compressed knot the the improved cinch knot.

I'm wondering if it's time to go back to a polymar knot. A long time ago I used that knot. The failures I had perplexed me so I moved on. I suspect the problem was that the lines got crossed in the initial loop and the line was cutting itself?

It's time to go back to the work bench get out the gloves and retest my knots!!

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My favorite is the Springer knot.

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I think a snell or a 4-5 turn uni knot would be your strongest option. With 80lb, I'd be tempted to crimp it.
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Originally Posted by Re-Bait View Post
I'm wondering if it's time to go back to a polymar knot. A long time ago I used that knot. The failures I had perplexed me so I moved on. I suspect the problem was that the lines got crossed in the initial loop and the line was cutting itself?

Yes, a Palomar will fail if you allow the double lines going through the eye of the hook to criss-cross. Otherwise, it's the knot I use for nearly everything.
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I stick with a 5-8 turn snell. Of all of the folks I have ever tuna fished with, folks who have caught train loads of tunas, that is all they use. I do not like to reinvent the wheel.
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My favorite is the Springer knot.

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Palomar and nothing else. I don't even waste time with snells any longer.

I only ever use 3 knots:

Palmor for chunking hooks and swivels.
Uni-Knot for tying off to diving plugs for bigeye
Bimini twist for the loop in my daytime sword line.
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Cannot go wrong with a properly tied Palomar for your cited application.
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San Diego Jam Knot.
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SD jam Knot......
I had trouble making that Knot work for me...
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On heavier line I use an improved clinch knot with fewer turns. Maybe 3 or 4 turns rather than 5. I've tied 125 lbs. mono and never had one fail.
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surprised that your snell isn't working. I'd recheck how you do it. also, i've seen some tuna hooks (namely the Mustad MU39941) slightly fray the snell while cinching it tight. The hook eye on this particular brand ) has a sharp edge to it, so it causes problems when cinching. watch out for that. I actually don't even use the eye anymore. i just snell to the shank. Here is a hook right after it came out of a 175 lb yellowfin in Venice...
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Originally Posted by Basil View Post
My favorite is the Springer knot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDokeGDkAt8
x2 on the Springer knot.
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I don’t know the name of it. It has become my go to knot. Very easy to tie. Works great on any leader from 30lb to 100+ pound line. This is the knot that I tie to my jigs and my circle hooks when I’m live baiting. It hasn’t failed yet!

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Four turn San Diego Jam--lubricate well to cinch tight
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I've been Snelling hooks for 40 years and have great confidence in them. And BTW I bench test every Knot I use. There's nothing like comparing the line itself under perfectly straight performance VS with knots at various lbs.

What I like about the polymer is the twice thru eye seems to spread the load. And Sportfish mag did extensive evaluations where they claim that most any Knot moves towards 100% breaking strength when you double the line.

And obviously the more compressed the Knot the less chance of slippage. My trilene Knot has been pretty good for me but I'm not really satisfied with end result which is not perfectly tight.

Thanks for the ideas I'm going to retry the jam, the Springer, and the polymer. And thanks fishgaag I've used that Knot on heavy leaders never thought of testing it for leader to hook!!
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Not sure how you tie snells but I go through the eye twice.
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Originally Posted by UNCFISH View Post
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Not sure how you tie snells but I go through the eye twice.
Mine look exactly like this picture....Which has always been an issue for me too. See the tag end pointing down? That tag makes it more challenging for me to get the hooks cleaning thru the chunk baits w/o interference!
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Anything over 40lb I crimp
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Just tried the Springer. Extremely easy and quick- seems to hold very well.

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