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Shane3203 09-07-2020 08:46 PM

Braid or mono
 
I'm sure this has been discussed many times but I'll ask anyway. If you were bottom fishing in 80-150' of water for mostly snapper or amberjack which do you prefer, braid or mono? I've been using Power Pro but it doesn't seem very durable. It may be strong and thin but it seems less abrasion resistant than mono. I started using it for the extra line capacity but quickly realized for the type of fishing I'm doing I don't really need that much line.

wstanford277 09-07-2020 08:53 PM

Braid with 15 ft of floro. Braid allows for less weight and better sensitivity bottom fishing vs mono in 150 ft. Braid also lasts years. The floro leader keeps the tail whips from breaking off and offers low visibility to the fish.

7hetexsan 09-07-2020 09:39 PM

If Iím fishing with lots of structure, shipwrecks, reefs and so forth, I fish all mono. A tiny nick on a sharp rock, barnacles or whatever will cut braid. Mono is much more cut resistant. I use braid, just not on my bottom fishing rigs.

Shane3203 09-07-2020 09:59 PM

Most of my reels have 65lb power pro braid and I'm using 40lb Fluorocarbon leader about 5' long. I noticed the just from the weight sliding up and down on the braid is getting pretty scuffed up. I have 40lb mono on a different reel and it seems to be holding up better. I'm thinking of ditching the braid and maybe going with 50lb mono on my Avet LX , is 50lb Line ok on that size reel or could I go to 60lb mono? I'm looking for something to horse those amberjack up out of the structure before they break me off

95wellcraft 09-08-2020 04:06 AM

To prevent your weight from sliding up and down your braid:
main line braid tied to 20 feet or so of mono. Then your weight and swivel and leader of your choice.

BACKTOTHESEA 09-08-2020 06:09 AM

Braid

High_Voltage 09-08-2020 07:45 AM

I use braid on high low rigs for sensitivity feeling small bites. Fish finder rigs/Carolina rigs I use 100 yard top shot of 50lb mono with 300 yards of braid backing in case something that wants to run hits it.

mdees88 09-08-2020 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by wstanford277 (Post 14028018)
Braid with 15 ft of floro. Braid allows for less weight and better sensitivity bottom fishing vs mono in 150 ft. Braid also lasts years. The floro leader keeps the tail whips from breaking off and offers low visibility to the fish.


Originally Posted by 95wellcraft (Post 14028225)
To prevent your weight from sliding up and down your braid:
main line braid tied to 20 feet or so of mono. Then your weight and swivel and leader of your choice.

This ^^^


mdees88 09-08-2020 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by Shane3203 (Post 14028120)
Most of my reels have 65lb power pro braid and I'm using 40lb Fluorocarbon leader about 5' long. I noticed the just from the weight sliding up and down on the braid is getting pretty scuffed up. I have 40lb mono on a different reel and it seems to be holding up better. I'm thinking of ditching the braid and maybe going with 50lb mono on my Avet LX , is 50lb Line ok on that size reel or could I go to 60lb mono? I'm looking for something to horse those amberjack up out of the structure before they break me off

Straight braid to swivel is a no-no for me. I get noticeably more bites with 15-20ft of 50lb fluoro above the swivel plus it gives you better abrasion resistance. 50lb line is plenty big enough line for that reel. The first gen LX is listed at 20lbs of drag at full which means realistically it probably puts out closer to 15-17lbs at full. It really doesn't matter what size line you put on that reel, it's just not very capable of "horsing up amberjacks" IMO because of it's high gear ratio (assuming 6.0) and a rather weak drag (relative to AJ fishing). If you have the LX G2 4.6, that's a much more capable reel...

For AJ's the more drag the better. I would recommend at least 20lbs minimum but I prefer 30lbs and have used a little more. All depends on how you're fishing them though. If you chum them up off the wreck you can get by with a "lighter" drag.

GreatBigTuna 09-08-2020 10:56 PM

Definitely braid, but like said above, I run about 15' of mono or flouro between the braid and whatever rig I'm fishing.

slickster 09-09-2020 05:17 AM

Been using 80-100 lb PP for bottom fishing for 15yrs, could never go back to mono, better in every way except for tangled lines, mono is superior....

bluescholar 09-09-2020 11:57 AM

150' of mono means you will never feel a bite with that stretch. So you'd basically drop, wait a minute, reel up and repeat. No thank you! Braid to a 30' 60-80lb flour or mono leader, connected with a FG knot.

lurker25 09-09-2020 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by slickster (Post 14031553)
Been using 80-100 lb PP for bottom fishing for 15yrs, could never go back to mono, better in every way except for tangled lines, mono is superior....

It amazes me that people still use mono in general. I have a friend that still uses mono on his light spinning outfits, like 3000 series inshore spinners. I also know another guy that puts a "topshot" of mono on his bottom fishing rigs, his topshot is 100yds and deeper than the water we fish so he is essentially fishing with 100%mono. The only thing I own that still has mono on it is my trolling rods, don't remember the last time I used mono on a casting reel but I vaguely remember that is sucked.:rofl:

My bottom fishing rigs are done like a couple of guys have already mentioned braid with 20' or so of mono or floro depending on my application. Sometimes the mono/floro goes straight to a jig, sometimes a weight, swivel an additional piece of floro finished with a hook.

melnic 09-09-2020 01:08 PM

I'm not mr super experienced bottom fisher but when switching from mono to braid, My kids and I catch more fish. We can feel the fish as well as the sinker on the bottom easier. Heck, Son #3 is still using a cheap $20 Walmart rod that is 5 years old and I re spun it with 20lb braid (just to prove a point to my other son) and it makes a noticeable difference.These are spinning reels.
I however use an Avet SX and was thinking about adding some floro onto the top

I have some rods I use for casting on the surface and they are all mono though

One thing I will say I don't like about braid vs mono, If you get 2 lines tangled up, I might as well cut it. Mono will be easier to untangle. I have guests often and that is just inevitable.

tarpononecharter 09-09-2020 06:25 PM

And I have had a similar experience with Power Pro. Just bought a large spool of Daiwa J Braid which I've heard good things about. Plan is for braid to a mono top shot to a fluorocarbon leader. In the past I used all mono but now fishing in deeper water and want the sensitivity and no stretch of braid.

highflier1 09-10-2020 08:53 PM

I run 65# braid, to the FG knot and start with 30' top shot of Mono. 40-60#. As needed I trim the mono, I will fish it as needed, but when it is less than 10' and I am back at dock, I put that rod aside to remind me to re rig the top shot with fresh 30' before my next fishing day. It only takes a few minutes and does not cost much as I only ever replace the mono and not much at that.

Why
Can feel the bite better, especially if you are fishing deep water
I jig frequently and braid just works better
In strong current you do not need as much lead as the braid is thinner and that helps hold bottom in current.
Smaller reels, You can put a lot of line on/ or use a smaller reel. If you get a monster you are less likely to get spooled with the addition length of braid vs Mono.

Why not.
Tangles Arg.
Cutting hands when you test drag while line is out.
Braid sometimes bites into itself on a reel that had lots of tension when reeling in. (issue for next drop not the current fish....

Highflier



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