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C3man 08-27-2020 08:02 AM

why are amberjack known as being such a strong fish when the fights are so short?
 
I've seen a ton of fishing videos where people catch these things fishing wrecks and they show the full fight and the aj's are usually caught in about a minute and a half or so and hardly ever fight for more than 5 actual minutes, but people compare them pound per pound to super strong fish like like tuna and gt's and they even have the nickname reef donkey. Don't get me wrong I understand that they need to be fought hard so that they can't reach the wreck, but imo a penn senator with only 20 something pounds of max drag would not haul up a 40 pound tuna up for instance from a wreck in a couple minutes like you can an aj, Maybe it's a fight you gotta experience for yourself but based on what I've seen I don't get the big deal.

kbad 08-27-2020 08:11 AM

Because a 15 pound AJ can straighten a 150 pound snap. The amount of pull they can generate is just unreal.

Seasir 08-27-2020 08:22 AM

I’ve caught 100 pound jacks and 100 pound tuna. Jacks are a much worse fight.

20biminitwist 08-27-2020 08:36 AM

Cause an AJ doesn't do the rope a dope.

Your either gonna do max drag and kick his ass or he is gonna wreck ya.

You don't get to play a AJ. They give you all they got and you either take it or they take you.

Seems like you watch a lot of videos about catching fish and then try to discredit their fighting ability. Catch a 50 AJ in 250 feet of water and you will damn glad that that fight didn't last 30 minutes.

hthoang 08-27-2020 08:46 AM

AJs will fight to the end. Big tuna do take longer but most of the battle with big tuna is the death circle.

Flat Busted 08-27-2020 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by 20biminitwist (Post 13992998)
Cause an AJ doesn't do the rope a dope.

Your either gonna do max drag and kick his ass or he is gonna wreck ya.

You don't get to play a AJ. They give you all they got and you either take it or they take you.

Seems like you watch a lot of videos about catching fish and then try to discredit their fighting ability. Catch a 50 AJ in 250 feet of water and you will damn glad that that fight didn't last 30 minutes.

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C3man 08-27-2020 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by Seasir (Post 13992946)
Iíve caught 100 pound jacks and 100 pound tuna. Jacks are a much worse fight.

Worse as in lesser of worse as in more brutal? cuz f it's the latter then aj are truly beasts.

Stim 08-27-2020 08:52 AM

Never caught one that wasn't full of worms!
I won't keep them.

Fish Haid 08-27-2020 09:01 AM

AJ's give up towards the end - after a shark eats 80% of their body.

Tireless 08-27-2020 09:02 AM

Landing an 80 lb reef donkey is like pulling two 5 gallon buckets off the bottom.

Landlocked97 08-27-2020 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by C3man (Post 13992884)
I've seen a ton of fishing videos where people catch these things fishing wrecks and they show the full fight and the aj's are usually caught in about a minute and a half or so and hardly ever fight for more than 5 actual minutes, but people compare them pound per pound to super strong fish like like tuna and gt's and they even have the nickname reef donkey. Don't get me wrong I understand that they need to be fought hard so that they can't reach the wreck, but imo a penn senator with only 20 something pounds of max drag would not haul up a 40 pound tuna up for instance from a wreck in a couple minutes like you can an aj, Maybe it's a fight you gotta experience for yourself but based on what I've seen I don't get the big deal.


Have you ever caught an AJ?

Kenny Powers 08-27-2020 09:25 AM

Only fish I've ever caught and thought I was going to pass out and/or throw up just after the fish was landed. The first time I remember feeling the same as running a 400m in competition. Full adrenaline, everything you've got for a short time.

As others have said, there is no negotiation..... you either kick his ass or he kicks yours....

Captainbadfinger 08-27-2020 09:26 AM

Lmfao!!! Short fight??
Try one like this in deep water and let me know how you like the "short fight":bashhh:


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.the...837f75ab37.jpg

Captainbadfinger 08-27-2020 09:28 AM

That fish will beat your ass up,down and sideways!!

Rolandt03 08-27-2020 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by C3man (Post 13992884)
I've seen a ton of fishing videos where people catch these things fishing wrecks and they show the full fight and the aj's are usually caught in about a minute and a half or so and hardly ever fight for more than 5 actual minutes, but people compare them pound per pound to super strong fish like like tuna and gt's and they even have the nickname reef donkey. Don't get me wrong I understand that they need to be fought hard so that they can't reach the wreck, but imo a penn senator with only 20 something pounds of max drag would not haul up a 40 pound tuna up for instance from a wreck in a couple minutes like you can an aj, Maybe it's a fight you gotta experience for yourself but based on what I've seen I don't get the big deal.

im guessing the videos you have watched have been shortened and you did not realize it.

im also guessing you have never caught one!

a 30lb AJ is not going to be caught and landed in 5 min, if you do, you have some extremely large gear and you are built like the incredible hulk!

ono loco 08-27-2020 09:42 AM

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.the...068666bed.jpeg

this one just swam right up to the boat and we netted him...

Ebbie 08-27-2020 09:43 AM

I havenít seen anyone put an AJ on the deck of any size in two minutes.
I think there is some editing going on there.
We had two TPW game wardens pull up when
we were hooked up. They sat and ate there lunch
just because they were curious what we had hooked into.
The Jack Crevalle is another beast to catch.
Itís like reeling in a piano off the bottom.
And every time you see color, down to the bottom again!
I love hooking into AJís I release most of them and the Crevalles.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.the...472c5f5d8.jpeg
all the Crevalles.

Seasir 08-27-2020 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by C3man (Post 13993037)
Worse as in lesser of worse as in more brutal? cuz f it's the latter then aj are truly beasts.

More brutal. 100 pound yellowfin is baby S... compared to a 100 pound jack.

Seasir 08-27-2020 10:02 AM

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.the...a26aad9fe.jpeg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.the...5158b38d1.jpeg


proof for the pudding.

20biminitwist 08-27-2020 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by Captainbadfinger (Post 13993166)
Lmfao!!! Short fight??
Try one like this in deep water and let me know how you like the "short fight":bashhh:


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.the...837f75ab37.jpg

Ain't never caught one that big and never want to.

Did catch one on the 409 hump about 50 lbs and ended up putting the rod in the rod holder half way up from 400 feet.
Figured I would just let him kick his own ass.:grin:


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