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Old 08-11-2020, 08:48 AM
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Default Went kingfishing for the first time...

Looking for a little advice here on rigging. Started the day off with short strikes as I was just running a normal wire leader pin rig with ballyhoo.

then put stingers on with #4 wire and trebles. Those got absolutely torn up. Lost almost every stinger.. should have used thicker wire probably.

next started putting 9/0 hooks with wide eyes over my 8/0 rigs and using a small rubberband to hold against the ballyhoo.

this worked great, thick with cudas but got a couple nice kings.


my question is am I better pre rigging with two J-hooks and snelling them together? We had a big ass cuda or king smash one of our baits and it bent the front 8/0 J-hook and ripped the 9/0 completely off of it.. think we were too shallow for a wahoo but it sure ran like one.

any pictures of rigs would be helpful! Wahoo advice is welcome too as I’m sure a lot of those rigs would hold up great for kings.

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Not sure your water clarity, but down here we use tiny hooks and light wire.
Not to be flip, but do a search...there is a LOT of info here on kingfish rigs. Like a LOT.
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Originally Posted by DarcizzleOffshore View Post
Not sure your water clarity, but down here we use tiny hooks and light wire.
Not to be flip, but do a search...there is a LOT of info here on kingfish rigs. Like a LOT.

pretty green, and ya I have looked at a bunch of it which was my reason for trying multiple rigs. Just curious if the hook directly attached to another hook would have caused an issue. Worked fine all day then hat one hit hard and run, hit the all mono 30w which was already out 100 yd’s threw a bit of drag to try and slow it down instead of getting spooled and the back hook broke off. Just wondering if setting up some kind of snelled connection for the second hook would make a difference
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Personally, I prefer single hook setups for kingfish and wahoo. A snelled connection for the leading J hook is best if doing a double rig setup with a trailing treble hook. Look up how to tie the "knotless knot" for the snelled connection. You may also look into using stronger hooks if the hooks themselves are breaking.
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Lighten up the drag. We’ve caught Kings up in the 60s with 2-3 lb drag. When they run they are going to run. Drag at 20# pulls hooks and breaks leaders.

we use a 1/0 leading hook with a 6 inch piece of wire haywired to a 3x treble. Usually 30# wire between the two and 40 from the swivel to the lead hook.
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I mostly use ribbonfish. Two J hooks and a 3X 1/0 treble, all haywire twisted with single strand. I build them in two sizes so I can use the correct rig depending on how big the ribbonfish are that is available. A typical kingfish nite snips the tail off. If your watching your rods, immediately free line that reel for a few seconds. The kingfish will come back to finish off the bait more often than not. That’s called the “drop back” method btw.
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Cmurph339 - so I also went kingfishing for the first time back in June out of Savannah. I think we had a lot of beginner's luck. We trolled live pogies 2-3kts, lip hooked with 4/0 hook, 4/0 trailing treble hook and kingfish skirts with one on the surface and one down with 15' or so. We used an 18" #7 wire leader, #4 wire for the treble hook, and 40# fluoro. We caught just the one fish in the pic on the first hook up at one point we had a double on.

Where my question comes in is what do I need change on my setup? We had 4 other strikes that day that resulted in broken wire, broken fluro. I know having a smooth, properly set drag is critical, but what other changes should I make?



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Where was the wire breaking? To the stinger? Or the main leader? Also what lb flouro?

may just be having the drags too heavy
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Originally Posted by Cmurph339 View Post
Where was the wire breaking? To the stinger? Or the main leader? Also what lb flouro?

may just be having the drags too heavy
The wire broke above the lead hook on the main wire leader, but it didn’t appear that the haywire twist pulled apart. I was using 40# fluro and it was a clean break not the knot coming loose. I don’t feel like I need to go heavier on the tackle but wouldn’t know for sure.
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The wire broke above the lead hook on the main wire leader, but it didn’t appear that the haywire twist pulled apart. I was using 40# fluro and it was a clean break not the knot coming loose. I don’t feel like I need to go heavier on the tackle but wouldn’t know for sure.
that all seems right, my only thought would be less drag. Double check your wire to make sure no kinks or weak spots that could cause issues
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If your drag was set correctly(light) then more then likely it was the cudas breaking/biting you off and not kingfish
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Tie on a diamond jig. Drop down. Reel up. Catch kingfish. Repeat.
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I don't kingfish but I have been before with my cousin and all I know is no such thing as fighting a kingfish. Think he had maybe 2lbs of drag on the reels. Let them run, let them run, let them run then reel their tired butt back in. If line got low we would chase them.

I'm thinking bent hooks means to much drag
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Could also look into pulling something like a Mackahoo https://big-nick-lures.myshopify.com...ad-pearl-mylar If you do a search on this site you will see lots of discussion about them

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