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Old 08-04-2020, 03:05 PM
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why is # 4 butt the preferred butt for sword fishing, does it matter all that much, thank you men
Old 08-04-2020, 03:11 PM
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If you are using an LP as a reel, it helps to have a larger sized bent-butt for the added weight. The big electrics like LP, Hooker, and Kristal are pretty hefty.
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Depends on the rod itself. The #4 is a larger diameter and is made for 80# rods, the #2 is made for 30-50# rods.

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#4 Is significantly stouter than #2, and the larger diameter of the reel seat offers a better perch for large heavy reels.
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i using a hooker , so might go with the 4, thank you
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just an FYI- Winthrup butt accommodates 50 and 80 by turning the reel seat around.also straight and bent butt in one. its an option (but pricey)

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It all depends on the rod and the reel being used. Heavier tackle will require a larger reel seat. Make sure that your rod that you plan on using can fit the rod butt as they are not universal.
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How do the butts in the picture sort out? Can't use the table below, as there are more values than pictured butts. My guess is the top one would correspond to the last value in the list, given it is the largest, but does it?
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Originally Posted by nodima View Post
How do the butts in the picture sort out? Can't use the table below, as there are more values than pictured butts. My guess is the top one would correspond to the last value in the list, given it is the largest, but does it?
Top to bottom:
UB6C
UB4C
UB2C
UB2SC

They don’t show the UB4SC. SC stands for “Short Curved”.
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The other thing is also the fact that the #2 butt using a tiagra 50W for hand crank you will hit your knuckles on the gunnel when trying to crank it from the rod holder. The #4 butt gets the reel off the gunnels.
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Originally Posted by SordTools View Post
The other thing is also the fact that the #2 butt using a tiagra 50W for hand crank you will hit your knuckles on the gunnel when trying to crank it from the rod holder. The #4 butt gets the reel off the gunnels.
I think that’s only if you’re using a short bent butt.
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Originally Posted by SordTools View Post
The other thing is also the fact that the #2 butt using a tiagra 50W for hand crank you will hit your knuckles on the gunnel when trying to crank it from the rod holder. The #4 butt gets the reel off the gunnels.
It has to do with the length and/or depth of the rod holder.

My advice is if you're swordfishing, to with the #4. Even people using BM9000's like myself, they fit a #4.

Only time I could see using smaller is if you're hand cranking and want to save weight. You won't be saving much though. Maybe an ounce or two .
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ALPS says their #4 is 50-80 class but my 50w Okuma 2sp does tilt when trolling plugs, HST, etc. Yesterday I checked my 70VS and reel foot was same width as the 50, so I’d imagine same issue.

One of my bent butt rods is a 40-100lb Daiwa Tanacom w ALPS #4. Do the smaller electrics have wider feet similar to an 80?
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Originally Posted by madmanmarz View Post
ALPS says their #4 is 50-80 class but my 50w Okuma 2sp does tilt when trolling plugs, HST, etc. Yesterday I checked my 70VS and reel foot was same width as the 50, so I’d imagine same issue.

One of my bent butt rods is a 40-100lb Daiwa Tanacom w ALPS #4. Do the smaller electrics have wider feet similar to an 80?
Smaller electric as in a BM or a Banax? They will fit the #4. I can confirm this because that's what I have on my sword rod. The clamp screws, stock in the box, are long enough as well.
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Originally Posted by HookMeUpII View Post
Smaller electric as in a BM or a Banax? They will fit the #4. I can confirm this because that's what I have on my sword rod. The clamp screws, stock in the box, are long enough as well.
cool yeah those kind
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Originally Posted by madmanmarz View Post
cool yeah those kind
Actually, I should correct myself. For the BM, yes. That I can personally tell you will fit. Banax, I can't say. I imagine it would as well though.

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