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Old 07-08-2020, 08:33 AM
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Ill be doing my fishing off SC. I have hooked and caught marlin over the years as by catch but never targeted them. I have dredges and dredge reels from sail fishing in South Florida and think I have most of the tackle but want to get a better idea of the fishery. Blue marlin primarily

1. What's the typical spread look like? I personally have a preference on bait but would be willing to lures if that's the bite. Is is large hoo's and Spanish? Circle hooks? Am I feeding them on the circle hook for 10sec like a sailfish or are the usually engulfing the bait?
2. What speeds are you trolling these baits? 6-8knts?
3.Whats the typical rig look like? leader size and length and hook size
4.Whats yalls tackle preference, rod, reel, line etc
5. Any general information you'd be willing to share

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Real Marlin, or Whites?
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Mainly blue marlin so real haha
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I have limited experience with big blues but I've released and lost a few big ones in my day (300-800lbs). You'll get guys who do it differently around the world. For example, off of Costa Rica, guys are running Talicas stand-up, live or dead bait, switching them off of teasers. Guys in Hawaii may do the same but they're still using heavy chair tackle.

1) Depends how you want to target them. Lures are still run with J-hooks. Live/dead bait, the ethical way to go is circles.
2) 7-8 kts is my preference. Ballyhoo behind a lure will run fine at those speeds.
3) For big blues, unless using wind-ons, I run a 12' leader of 400 lb extra hard.
4) For me, minimum of a 50w and even then I would prefer a 70/80 class reel. Line 100-130 hollowcore with a 100-130 mono topshot. It really depends on the guy at the helm. If you watch the Costa Rica guys, they run lighter tackle and stay right on the fish. The Hawaii guys will still try to stay on the fish but use the heavier tackle in the event it goes deep. One thing I can tell you...don't let them go deep. That's not good. We lost a 700-800 lb class fish many moons ago. It went deep on us and slugged it out in the current for 2 hours.
5) When I do target marlin, this is my spread:

Long riggers: Black Bart 1656, Joe Yee Super Plunger, etc

Short riggers: Illander Express, Illander Cruiser with a horse ballyhoo

Rigger Teasers: Two MoldCraft style squid chains

Flat Lines: Large bullets (specifically black and purple)

Transom Teasers: Usually a giant plunger hear lure.
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4# to 10# Skipjack or Wavyback bridled through the eye sockets with a 12/0 or larger J-hook at 2 knots. Let the baIt decide how deep to swim. Rubber band to a cleat with 30 yards of slack pulled off before it comes tight on the pole.

For lures run a teaser first, then large lures close to the boat. Run a huge scoop on the high line. 9 to 11 knots.
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Originally Posted by HookMeUpII View Post
I have limited experience with big blues but I've released and lost a few big ones in my day (300-800lbs). You'll get guys who do it differently around the world. For example, off of Costa Rica, guys are running Talicas stand-up, live or dead bait, switching them off of teasers. Guys in Hawaii may do the same but they're still using heavy chair tackle.

1) Depends how you want to target them. Lures are still run with J-hooks. Live/dead bait, the ethical way to go is circles.
2) 7-8 kts is my preference. Ballyhoo behind a lure will run fine at those speeds.
3) For big blues, unless using wind-ons, I run a 12' leader of 400 lb extra hard.
4) For me, minimum of a 50w and even then I would prefer a 70/80 class reel. Line 100-130 hollowcore with a 100-130 mono topshot. It really depends on the guy at the helm. If you watch the Costa Rica guys, they run lighter tackle and stay right on the fish. The Hawaii guys will still try to stay on the fish but use the heavier tackle in the event it goes deep. One thing I can tell you...don't let them go deep. That's not good. We lost a 700-800 lb class fish many moons ago. It went deep on us and slugged it out in the current for 2 hours.
5) When I do target marlin, this is my spread:

Long riggers: Black Bart 1656, Joe Yee Super Plunger, etc

Short riggers: Illander Express, Illander Cruiser with a horse ballyhoo

Rigger Teasers: Two MoldCraft style squid chains

Flat Lines: Large bullets (specifically black and purple)

Transom Teasers: Usually a giant plunger hear lure.
Thanks! when pulling dead bait do you have a preferred circle hook that you've had success with?
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Marlin will often whack a lure with their bill, then come up and mouth it to see what it is. Razor sharp hooks are essential on your lures to hook them during this process.
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Originally Posted by charlestonredfish View Post
Thanks! when pulling dead bait do you have a preferred circle hook that you've had success with?
I'm probably the wrong person to ask for that. We pull our horse ballys on J hooks. That's the only dead bait we run.
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Originally Posted by HookMeUpII View Post
I'm probably the wrong person to ask for that. We pull our horse ballys on J hooks. That's the only dead bait we run.
what j hook do you run? Im not sold only running circles at least to start but I know a lot of tournaments require circles so its a good practice to get into

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For me it would be a Koga in 10/0 - 12/0 depending on the size of the bait.
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Most marlin get hooked in the bill, not the mouth. A circle hook will not connect as well as a J-hook.

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4 lures on the longs and shorts... take your pick from the flavors of the day. - on 80's

1 or 2 dink baits on circle hooks on the flat to pick of a white or sail.

Squid teaser chain with a header of some sort

Dredge if you want to.

Troll according to the speed the lures like.... 8 kts?

100 fathoms +/-
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Originally Posted by wahoo wacker View Post
4 lures on the longs and shorts... take your pick from the flavors of the day. - on 80's

1 or 2 dink baits on circle hooks on the flat to pick of a white or sail.

Squid teaser chain with a header of some sort

Dredge if you want to.

Troll according to the speed the lures like.... 8 kts?

100 fathoms +/-
what's your definition of a dink bait?
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Originally Posted by charlestonredfish View Post
what's your definition of a dink bait?
small or peewee ballyhoo....
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if running a live bait , or naked swimming or skipping dead bait , circles are great provided you know how to hook billfish on circles
if running dead bait in an islander or similar head J hooks drag and snag style works . there are some ways to rig head and dead bait with circles but it complicates things. personally I would rather run lures than dead bait with j hooks behind a head.
im all for dead baits in islanders for teasers, with or without squid chains .
you can add dead bait to pretty much any marlin teaser, but allot of teasers work great without a bait in it. the bait witl defiantly affect the way they run


if your looking for just blues and nothing else , you can pull 2 teasers and 4 or 5 lures around 7.5 to 9 kts . it will reduce your bycatch a little .
if just fishing for whatever, pull a couple teasers , 2 lures in short rigger, smaller lures or baits in long and shotgun 6 tom 8.5 kts

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In On this..
looking for the exact information as we are planning to fish a few tournaments in 2022..want to learn to target them in our home waters off of Hilton Head Island SC

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