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Old 03-26-2020, 08:02 AM
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I'm ready to pull the trigger on a new 2019 Stella but I'm still on the fence about the size. For my scope, VJ for amberjack up to 150/170 foot, I'd prefer the 8000 for is lightness, general compactness and slightly less retrieve per crank but the 10000 has the new feature Heatsink (Shimano claims up to 30% heat reduction during the fight !!!!) plus the 8000 is rated for braid only. I'm using braid anyway with 20 to 30 foot 100lbs fluorocarbon leader. Alan Hawk on his review says about that:

"Size 8000 of the new Stella is designated for use with braid only. There is a lot of speculation floating around, but the real reason for it is a bit complex and requires a background story; in the previous 2013 generation sizes 8000, 10000, and 14000 shared the same rotor, the same distance of spool oscillation up and down, but had different spool diameters of 61, 66, and 68.6 millimetre respectively. Since the spool diameter of the 8000 is relatively smaller than its sisters, Shimano decided to give it a dedicated smaller rotor in the new 2019 generation, which reduces weight and makes the reels look more proportionate. The distance of spool oscillation though remains the same as its sisters, which means that at the extreme ends of spool positions the line may be at a very acute angle with the line roller which might cause mono to slip on the spool and cause erratic drag performance and casting issues. Anyway, from some experimenting around I'd say that you'll be fine with a mono top shot as long as it's not very thick. A ballpark figure would be around 0.40 mm (0.015 inch) thick at most, but that remains my personal estimate and exceeding it a little might still work for you."

Anybody has any real life experience on this two feature (Heatsink and braid only) to know if they're worth going for the 10000 or not very important so stick with 8000?

Thanks to all

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Old 03-26-2020, 02:10 PM
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Stella 8k on a PE 4 MC Works 56" bluefin 15 minutes. Max Cuatro 65# braid FG knot to Hi Seas 60# Flouro 8' leader.

Fish took me deep on the spool - never even an issue with heat.

Go with the 8K and load it with max cuatro.



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Thanks for answering and nice combo, the reel is gonna be paired with a Jigging Master Monster Game PE 3-6 120-300gr, I need at least 20 foot #80/100 lbs fluorocarbon because we mainly fish very close to offshore platform and most of the times we have to knock off the fish out of the structure with boat engines and full closed friction, but it normally takes few seconds and normally when the fluoro enters the spool the fish is already partially knackered, do you think that even such a thick fluoro wouldn't slip on the spool?

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Here is my 2 cents worth and I realize I may not be directly answering your question. When I first started fishing I bought good rods and great reels. Even bought a Stella or two. As I became more knowledgable I started buying great rods and good reels. You provided information from Alan Hawk but if you read many of Hawks reviews he often points out that a less expensive reel such as a Spheros SW or a Daiwa BG is for all intents and purposes very similar to the far more expensive reels in each companies lineup.
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Yes, I agree with you, the mid tier reels like Saragosa or Quantum Cabo for example, are more than enough for most fishing needs and for sure the price difference is not justified by the superior refinement of those top notch stuff, but for most people, including me, is more about owning the best on the market and the feeling of operate the latest generation tool.

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