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Old 03-25-2020, 11:04 AM
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Coming up on my first full season on the water in Southern New England and need to outfit with three (3) conventional combo's for me and my two boys (10 & 12). We inshore fish for stripers, fluke, black sea bass, tog. With needing three outfits anyone have any suggestions for good deals on combos? We aren't going to be hardcore yet, any combo's that provide more utility than others? Interested in your thoughts. Thanks.
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Not sure what your budget is or how deep you fish but a low profile combo that I LOVE the sensitivity of the rod is the Shimano SLX combo. You can find them in combo with the reel for very good pricing for the quality.

Here is the downside I see for kids: for line capacity, I would probably fish 15lb braid and that can cut kids when a fish runs. I love the action of the rod but it has an extra fast tip and kids can be more prone to snapping an extra fast tip.

It is a freshwater combo but I personally use the SLX rod for my fish because it is a good value rod with excellent sensitivity. I have landed striped bass to around 50" on mine.
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why conventional ? i find kids have an easier time with spinning... tends to be lighter, less tangles.

try cabelas/bps (or online these days) and get some ugly stick combos. great for kids. when they get better and or get more into it you can upgrade the reels as a next step.
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Be prepared to read a list of just about every rod and reel known to humankind.
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I purchased 3 spinning set ups last fall so I'm good on that, but I'd like to get some dedicated setups for jigging and live lining.
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Budget? Type of fishing(bottom vs. trolling)?
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With stripers mentioned in the mix , budget a consideration and kids in the mix you'll probably want something on the heavy side for the Sea Bass and Fluke .

Penn levelwind combos come to mind , they have 3 levels . Rival the cheapest , Warfare in the middle and Squall at the higher end . I have a Rival reel as a backup Sea Bass set up , not a big fan but it works . I use a Squall 30LW for cod , pollack and haddock and I like it . It can handle a nice pollack double . The Warfare I've not handled .

Buying the Penn combo you pretty much get the rod for around $20 over the reel price . Personally I'd rather have an Ugly Stik .

The 30LW will hold more braid than you'll ever need . Save a few bucks and use mono backing . I have about 200 yards of 60lb Big Game and 150 yards of 50lb Powerpro on mine . I wouldn't feel undergunned on a big bass and still quite serviceable for the smaller stuff .
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I like the penn fathoms mated to ugly sticks. Excellent value imo. Many models to choose from including star or lever drag, level wind or not. I have used the heck out of them for 5 years with no issues whatsoever.
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For bait or bottom fishing, I like the Shimano Charter boat special 2000 size levelwinds with lever drag, on a conventional tsunami rod or ugly stick for very solid inexpensive set up.....

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avet sx of penn fathoms for reels

st croix tidemaster 7 ft or an ugly stick for a rod
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Shimano Torium PG reels and Trevala jigging rods.

We are eight years into our transition with those rods and not one has broken. I can't tell you how many Ugly sticks we went thru. They break and the eyes rust...and trust me, I take care of my gear.

Another good alternative is the Star rods jigging rods.

Get the Torium in the 16 or 20 size...the kids will love the lower gearing compared to many conventional reels as well as the sweet T-bar handle. 33 lbs of drag.

These rigs will last for years.
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Good thread. Looking for affordable rigs like the OP. Starting from scratch basically.
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Good info everyone, obviously the Penn Squall combo is the cheapest but something keeps telling me don't do it. Budget is non-existent...lets just say I'm going to have to get creative in purchasing, probably use pay pal direct to bank account so she doesn't see it on the credit card, and pray she doesn't notice the extra rods in the rocket launchers when we are at the beach!
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What about the Okuma Cedros Jigging Rods? I have 1 and love it. It's the best jigging rod for the price and has Alps Guides and reel seat. For the price it's feels like a 300$ Custom rod.


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Originally Posted by triumphrick View Post
Shimano Torium PG reels and Trevala jigging rods.

We are eight years into our transition with those rods and not one has broken. I can't tell you how many Ugly sticks we went thru. They break and the eyes rust...and trust me, I take care of my gear.

Another good alternative is the Star rods jigging rods.

Get the Torium in the 16 or 20 size...the kids will love the lower gearing compared to many conventional reels as well as the sweet T-bar handle. 33 lbs of drag.

These rigs will last for years.
What about the Okuma Cedros Jigging Rods? I have 1 and love it. It's the best jigging rod for the price and has Alps Guides and reel seat. For the price it's feels like a 300$ Custom rod.

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Cedros MH jigging rod with Alps parts
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Originally Posted by illin8 View Post
Coming up on my first full season on the water in Southern New England and need to outfit with three (3) conventional combo's for me and my two boys (10 & 12). We inshore fish for stripers, fluke, black sea bass, tog. With needing three outfits anyone have any suggestions for good deals on combos? We aren't going to be hardcore yet, any combo's that provide more utility than others? Interested in your thoughts. Thanks.
Budget is a big factor, I also question why conventional vice spinning? Also if you buy good stuff, you do not have to buy big bulky gear. Go quality LIGHT! So much more fun and imo much more fishy. You will catch way more fish on a quality light rig spooled with quality braid them some heavy rod and a heavy reel spooled with crap mono. The braid holds bottom with much less weight required (huge advantage) and the Trevala Rod discussed below will send the nibble of any sized fish crisply to the hands of whoever is holding the rod.


All I do is fish for the species you describe. Not a commercial guy or charter but I fish a lot and I’d like to think I catch as well as most. I have a number of rods that I use but if I was to recommend a combo that you can use to catch tiny Scup to Giant Stripe Bass and everything in between, including Tautog and any kind of top water casting, it would be a Shimano Trevala TVSS63MH.

https://www.cabelas.com/product/SHIM...OD/1932219.uts

with a Daiwa BG3500 spooled with some quality 30lb test braid.

https://www.tackledirect.com/daiwa-b...ning-reel.html

I have caught 2” Black Sea Bass and 2” Scup and plenty of 40”+ Stripe Bass and everything else in between with the Trevala/BG3500 combo, drifting, casting and bottom fishing. I felt like I had the right rod for all of them. You can do it all with this combo with good braid on it and not feel over rigged for small fish. I won’t lie, you will not power in a big Stripe Bass or a gator sized Blue Fish with the BG3500 like you could with a bigger reel but the rod is so freaking awesome, you can pump the rod and then crank down on a big Stripe Bass or Blue Fish with ease. Not to mention fighting a big fish with a light set up is a blast. This rod is also perfect for Black Sea Bass fishing.

I have 2 of the Trevalas, one is M the other is MH. If I was only gonna buy 1 it would be the MH. The extra stiffness makes it a better bottom fishing rod especially noticeable when targeting Tautog.


I am not talking Shark, Tuna or deep water Cod fishing but for everything else we fish in Southern New England in water depths a 100-120 or less, there aren’t many fish swimming that this combo is not ideal for.

What’s awesome is the Trevala with a BG3500 looks like a $10 combo you’d buy at walmart for a kid to fish Sunfish in a cow pond using a bobber & a corn kernel. Come to think of it, the a Trevala would be ok for that too!


If you’re committed to a conventional, Shimano also makes the Trevala for a conventional reel.

https://www.tackledirect.com/shimano...ional-rod.html


Blackhole makes some awesome acid-wrapped rods that I have paired with Shimano Tranx Bait caster Reels that are awesome for the kind of fish you’re talking about but kind of on the expensive side for a kids.......

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