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Old 03-25-2020, 08:18 AM
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So my new to me boat is set up with outriggers. I fish the Great Lakes for salmon and no one up here uses them. I think they’ll be great for dragging heavy copper lines.

Anyway my dumb question is, do you extend them full length out the back when traveling to the fishing grounds or wait until you’re there? Seems like if you extend them at the dock, that would be a lot of stress on the mounting hardware in rough weather. The flip side is, I’m not sure I wanna be up trying to set them up out at sea. Just looking to see what folks do. Thanks!
Old 03-25-2020, 08:54 AM
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I have 22' Gemlux Carbon Fiber retractable Outrigger Poles and their outrigger bases. Routinely run 100+ miles in rough conditions with the outriggers fully extended. No issues. I could potentially see lesser quality bases and poles having issues. Anytime i plan on using them, the outriggers are extended at the dock prior to leaving. Everyone I know who uses their outriggers while fishing, extend them at the dock.
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I extend mine out at the dock before I depart. There is no way I want to be climbing around holding on with a half-hand in 3 foot seas trying to set them. I also want them ready to go at a moments notice. I had a sportfisher as my previous boat and kept them extended all the time.
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I have 15 foot tacos and extend them out at sea.
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Most cc’s and sportys run them extended and just swing them out when ready to fish. The gemlux carbon fiber riggers have 3 separate sections. It’s not reasonable to open and close them every trip in rough seas.
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FYI outriggers aren't meant to fish deep. Actually they are extremely inefficient at that lol. I say this because all my fishing up there has been targeting salmon and trout down deep.
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Originally Posted by offshorebri View Post
FYI outriggers aren't meant to fish deep. Actually they are extremely inefficient at that lol. I say this because all my fishing up there has been targeting salmon and trout down deep.
My plan is to run 300-450’ copper lines off them. Basically treat them as an alternative to planer boards. Those will run 60-80’ down
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Originally Posted by Southern_Fish View Post
I have 22' Gemlux Carbon Fiber retractable Outrigger Poles and their outrigger bases. Routinely run 100+ miles in rough conditions with the outriggers fully extended. No issues. I could potentially see lesser quality bases and poles having issues. Anytime i plan on using them, the outriggers are extended at the dock prior to leaving. Everyone I know who uses their outriggers while fishing, extend them at the dock.
Must be a Southern thing...
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Originally Posted by Chesapeake173 View Post
My plan is to run 300-450’ copper lines off them. Basically treat them as an alternative to planer boards. Those will run 60-80’ down
What are you running for release clips?
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They work great for that. Before these mini boards took off that's all the guys in Lake Ontario used, always ran lead core off them. The other thing they were great for was sparking in the early morning in the fall when the fish stacked up at the pier heads.
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Originally Posted by doctor_ake View Post
What are you running for release clips?
mill have to experiment, but I think the release that’s on there should work with either a rubber band or two. If that doesn’t work I’ll rig up an offshore release.

For those that haven’t done it, what we use are molded planer boards that pull the lines off to the side. With the heavier lines, you need a heavier board. They work great, but when a fish hits you have to fight the fish and the board until you get the Baird in and release it. In big waves and big fish the board will sometimes bury in the water. That’s almost guaranteed to snap the leader. I’ve always thought about outriggers but would never go buy them just for an experiment, but now...... we’ll see.
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There are a couple people I know that fish Lake Ontario with outriggers. They don't use them every trip, but for what you are planning to use them for, long coppers, lead cores etc is exactly what they use them for.

As for the question of running extended or not, I have 18' Lee Carbon Fiber poles, I always extend them when I get out to fishing grounds and retract them before we head in. I have changed locations leaving them extended, so I can do it. But mine are really easy to extend and retract so I just think its easier to run with them retracted. Plus I trailer my boat so I don't drive down the road with them extended.

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Originally Posted by Chesapeake173 View Post
My plan is to run 300-450’ copper lines off them. Basically treat them as an alternative to planer boards. Those will run 60-80’ down
The old timers used to run the old 16oz lead ball off the outriggers years ago. Then they went to the big planers with tow lines. Then the church boards etc.

I've tried it and have seen people still use outriggers and be successful. One of the problems is the slack when the fish hits, and you know how salmon are when they get just the hint of slack. Try setting up a tag-line on your outrigger to reduce that slack. I had a lot more luck with them.

Also, rigging up a large scotty clip on on 150 mono and a snap worked out to be the best release for me.

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