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Old 02-07-2020, 11:58 AM
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I will be HST off South Florida. I have 3 Penn International 50 wides spooled with 60llb mono. The setup would be: 60lb mono mainline> 25' 200lb wind on leader> trolling lead > 25' 300lb shock cord > 3' of cable to lure.
Your thoughts on this setup?
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I would do away with the windon between your 60 mono and trolling lead. I run either 60 or 80 mono to the snap to the lead. No reason for another connection.
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That will definitely get the job done but with the 60# mono to wind-on they sound set up to troll for tuna and billfish. Which is fine and will allow easy transition back and forth.

You might consider backing with braid and top-shot with 80# mono. Even momoi diamond 80 makes me nervous when it gets to pinging under pressure.
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On 50W I would go with 80lb Momoi Diamond breaks at about 100 lb. Then if you are going for Wahoo 32 ounce weight, then your shock leader (200 or 300Lb Mono) then the lure.

If going for Tuna no lead and just heavy jetted lures on 150lb leader waaaaaaaay back.
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That setup will work but i don't see a point to the windon. Run your mainline right to the lead. 60# may limit how heavy you can go on the leads/lures and may limit your speed some, but set the max drag properly and troll as fast as that lets you.

Personally on my 50's i prefer prefer to spool with 100 pound braid (~500 yds) then 80 momoi mono on top. The 80# connects directly to the lead with a snap swivel. Not having braid backing should be fine for south Florida but in the Bahamas there are big enough fish to make that mono get scary low.
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With the 60# mono mainline your lure selection will be limited because of the high drag settings needed for some lures. You should not HST a Bonita, large cowbell or other lures that require drag settings over 20#. I regularly run 60# mainlines, but I limit the lures to 9” chrome jets behind a 32 oz. sinker.

If you have room on the reels for a 100 yd. wind-on of 80# or 100# test it would allow you to troll with a heavier line from rod tip to trolling sinker. That’s the part that takes all the heat on a strike.
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I think most are using braid mainline to keep those lures down.
We do a 100y top shot of 80lb braid to the lead, then mono topshot/long leader DIRECT to hook. no cable or wire.
Bite is, or has been, getting tougher and tougher over here. Lotsa guys going straight mono. I caught one this year on mono straight to the hook regular trolling with a planer & seawitch. They tail bite.
Yes, you'll lose some lures, but experienced guys are saying you get many more bites and fish.
There is a big thread somewhere about it.
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Keep in mind your trolling leads will get a lot of strikes. If a Hoo misses a few feet then you've lost an expensive rig.
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Originally Posted by Ironworker View Post
Keep in mind your trolling leads will get a lot of strikes. If a Hoo misses a few feet then you've lost an expensive rig.
That's True. You could always paint them white to help reduce visibility. Not sure how effective it is but it makes me feel better!
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I use lead with thru cable rigging extending 12-18" past lead ends.
Can't say whether its ever prevented a cut off or not
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IMO, cable through the lead is a requirement. Lots of my leads have teeth marks in them that would have been cutoffs. Every once in a while we will still get a cutoff due to a lead strike but its not that common.
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Originally Posted by DarcizzleOffshore View Post
I think most are using braid mainline to keep those lures down.
We do a 100y top shot of 80lb braid to the lead, then mono topshot/long leader DIRECT to hook. no cable or wire.
Bite is, or has been, getting tougher and tougher over here. Lotsa guys going straight mono. I caught one this year on mono straight to the hook regular trolling with a planer & seawitch. They tail bite.
Yes, you'll lose some lures, but experienced guys are saying you get many more bites and fish.
There is a big thread somewhere about it.
I guess if your lures are sponsored it doesn't hurt too much to lose them. I can't catch any wahoo with three feet of cable out front of the lure, but I can catch them with 8" cable just fine. One fish does not make a trend.

For the trolling leads, yes, load them up with cable. You're not trying to get a bite there anyhow. I'm seeing trolling leads loaded up with 1,000# cable now, I don't see that as necessary and I have to think the added drag through the water will reduce the efficacy of the sinker.

My trolling sinkers have been painted white for quite a few years. With the majority of open water fish in the sea wearing white bottoms to limit predation from below there must be something to it. Even if it doesn’t help with lead strikes I prefer handling coated lead instead of bare. If you’re going to paint use zinc chromate primer first. Also test the white paint to make sure it doesn’t “light up” under a black light, if it does it will draw more attention to your lead than a bare one will.

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