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Old 01-14-2020, 08:30 AM
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I have lived on Andros Island for over 6 years now and have not fly fished the flats, I am going to change that this year...a friend just gave me a brand new St Croix Legend Ultra UFT909 9wt 9ft rod (rod stored so long the tube zipper was frozen closed). I would like some suggestions for a reel. I have never fly fished before so I am a complete noob. I dont want to break the bank, but I also dont want a cheap reel that will cause me issues learning to cast. Thanks in advance for the suggestions...
Old 01-14-2020, 08:32 AM
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go look on sierra trading for a tfo reel.
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I am in the same position. I fly fished 20 yrs ago, but, am getting back into it. I did look online at a review forum. They lined them all up, and the Orvis SR? Not sure if that's the exact one, got high praises. And I think it was less than $300. That's what I went with. Havent used it yet, but, looking forward to spring for sure.
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Try to score a lightly used Orvis Hydros SL V on ebay for around $100. You can also get the IV size but it may be a little light on backing capacity with 9 wt. These are good reels that you don't need to break the bank for. Just be sure to rinse with fresh water after each use.
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Thanks for the quick replies, I guess I should have asked for line and fly recommendations also...
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Line is tough to suggest as everyone has their preferences. Some rods cast better with different lines. If you have a stiff rod and it is windy, I prefer a line with a taper like Airflo Bruce Chard Tropical Punch. If you have a rod with more flex, a line like the SA Mastery Bonefish will be better and can be more delicate with presentation.

Go with dacron backing. Gel spun can be tough on your hands especially if not experienced with it.

Flies are specific to your area. On Andros, I suggest tan and pearl gotchas (size 2 or 4) with bead chain eyes. You can also get some with rubber legs. These will catch all but the spookiest bonefish.

You can either start with knotless leaders or tie your own. 15 to 20 lb tippet.
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Check out Allen fly fishing. Great product and customer service.
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9s a bit heavy for bones IMO but still workable.

For my cheaper guest setups we have reddington rise reels with a Rio Bonefish fly lines or the outbound short fly lines. If you want to come over to Exuma for a flyfish one day then send me a message.

Ole Florida fly shop is a great spot to get setup with great advise.
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Try to score a lightly used Orvis Hydros SL V on ebay for around $100. You can also get the IV size but it may be a little light on backing capacity with 9 wt. These are good reels that you don't need to break the bank for. Just be sure to rinse with fresh water after each use.
This is a very good suggestion - Orvis Hydros SL reels are the best value out reel out there. You could easily use the Orvis SL IV (it's little smaller). Orvis always has good sales as well.

- A good bonefish line is probably more important that a any of your other equipment. I like the Rio Bonefish quick shooter. If you have a 9wt rod get a 9 weight line. Rio makes very good but expensive fly lines. This is where is will pay to spend the extra money. It's worth it.

- You may do a fair bit of wading for bones on Andros, If you do again the is not the place to skimp. Simms flats boots are the way to go. Can often be found used or at a discount ion you look around. Your feet rubbed raw by sand and crushed coral will ruin your day very quickly.

- Get some knotless tapered fluorocarbon bonefish leaders and learn a loop not to tie on your flies.

- Get a pair of very good polarized sunglasses like Costas or Maui Jim or cheaper or if you want cheaper Sunclouds.

- Here is a run down of flies for Andros. Remember every bonefish on Andros likes things with legs, long legs . Don't know why but they do. This website has lots of good information for learning and upping your bonefish game.

https://www.deneki.com/2015/03/bonef...ndros-updated/

- a good online fly fishing retailer is Bear's Den.
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Look at Ross Reels....good quality reels....from the low end to the most expensive...as Cpalms said Bears Den....rods...reels... flies...to fly lines ask for Scott...
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This is a very good suggestion - Orvis Hydros SL reels are the best value out reel out there. You could easily use the Orvis SL IV (it's little smaller). Orvis always has good sales as well.

- A good bonefish line is probably more important that a any of your other equipment. I like the Rio Bonefish quick shooter. If you have a 9wt rod get a 9 weight line. Rio makes very good but expensive fly lines. This is where is will pay to spend the extra money. It's worth it.

- You may do a fair bit of wading for bones on Andros, If you do again the is not the place to skimp. Simms flats boots are the way to go. Can often be found used or at a discount ion you look around. Your feet rubbed raw by sand and crushed coral will ruin your day very quickly.

- Get some knotless tapered fluorocarbon bonefish leaders and learn a loop not to tie on your flies.

- Get a pair of very good polarized sunglasses like Costas or Maui Jim or cheaper or if you want cheaper Sunclouds.

- Here is a run down of flies for Andros. Remember every bonefish on Andros likes things with legs, long legs . Don't know why but they do. This website has lots of good information for learning and upping your bonefish game.

https://www.deneki.com/2015/03/bonef...ndros-updated/

- a good online fly fishing retailer is Bear's Den.
Yes. This is a very good reel from the reports and what I got. Havent used it yet, but, its supposed to be a great reel for the price. Also, I found Big Y Fly Company. GREAT prices on flies, etc. Like $1.75 or so for a Clouser minnow. I have ordered the flies, got them in, and they look great.
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I have 2 Hydros SL (IV & V) along with 2 Nautilus (CCFX2 8/10 & NV-G 8/9). The Hydros are nice reels for the money. They work great. I noticed Orvis no longer has them on their website. Not sure if that is temporary but you can still find new elsewhere (amazon) under $200 and used for under $100.
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A 9 weight is kind of a bazooka but that might be a good thing when casting in the wind or if you want to tangle with a permit or tarpon some day. For about a hundred bucks the Reddington Behemoth is a solid reel. I haven't tried enough lines to find one I love yet, I agree with the posts that say its really related to the rod and caster as much as anything. Maybe start with something mid range. Strangely enough one of my favorite lines is one of the cheapest, AirCel. I know its a freshwater line but I love it for redfish, tripletail, and have even caught 40LB fish on the 5 weight line.
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Thanks everyone, Kiwi Mike...let me get a little time under my belt and I will contact you.
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The new Orvis Hydros reels are coming out now....the others have been discontinued.
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Wow! Living on Andros, one of the best bonefish locations on the planet! Lucky!

I second the recommendation for Rio Bonefish quick shooter lines. They are slightly heavy for their weight rating and have a heavy front taper. This makes them easier to load a rod and helps make them easier to cast. They also float well.

You need a reel with a decent drag that will hold at least 200 yards of backing. I suggest buying a used reel on eBay or from someone looking to sell some well-maintained gear.

A 9 weight is fine to get started if a bit on the heavy side. If you decide you like fly fishing, you can buy an 8 weight rod and reel in the future.
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I'm late on this thread, but here's my 2 cents.
8 weight generally used for bonefish, mainly because of the wind. Most bonefish in most places can be caught on a 6 weight if you can handle the wind and make the cast. Large bonefish will necessitate an 8 weight.
Sage makes some inexpensive reels that hold up well. I own Ross, Sage, Orvis, and Lamson reels. My Ross reels have the least smooth drags. The Orvis Mirage has a nice, smooth drag. Better than the Orvis Hydros by far, but also more expensive. My only beef with my Lamson Litespeed is that you can't whack the spool and pick up line like you can with other reels. The Sage has been smooth so far, with limited use.
I like Rio fly lines. I've got a Bonefish Quickshooter on my 8 weight. It's a nice line.
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Thanks everyone, I am building my list. I have a few things in my Amazon wish list since that is the easiest way to get items out here. Just making sure I am looking at the right line, can you guys check out the Amazon link
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0821RW82M/?coliid=I3R8OVU2J4IMMD&colid=1T6LUA8FR0G9F&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0821RW82M/?coliid=I3R8OVU2J4IMMD&colid=1T6LUA8FR0G9F&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
The link says with leader but it does not say what strength, I am also looking at this RIO leader but not sure if I need to buy both
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001T6MM46/?coliid=IFMH6HQY62KHF&colid=1T6LUA8FR0G9F&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001T6MM46/?coliid=IFMH6HQY62KHF&colid=1T6LUA8FR0G9F&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
Again, I am new to all of this so it may seem like an obvious answer to you guys...I always like to have different leaders when I am offshore so do you carry an assortment of leaders or just one size that you like to cast?
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Thanks everyone, I am building my list. I have a few things in my Amazon wish list since that is the easiest way to get items out here. Just making sure I am looking at the right line, can you guys check out the Amazon link https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0821RW82M...v_ov_lig_dp_it The link says with leader but it does not say what strength, I am also looking at this RIO leader but not sure if I need to buy both https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001T6MM46...v_ov_lig_dp_it Again, I am new to all of this so it may seem like an obvious answer to you guys...I always like to have different leaders when I am offshore so do you carry an assortment of leaders or just one size that you like to cast?
I used to fly fish a lot. No one has mentioned it yet but make sure through what ever means you learn the right way to cast right from the get go. It is much better to get it right the first time than it is trying to correct bad self taught habits. When I fished Andros I brought a 8 and 9 weight. 8 was the preferred but the wind had me using the 9 weight the most. As for leaders I prefer the tapered pre made leaders using the loop to loop connection for easy change outs. The cuda's and sharks will cost you a leader every now and then. They were bad at the southern tip of Andros to the point wading was getting a little spooky.
Oh, and practice, practice, practice. I have been fortunate enough to guide some great fly fisherman for Tarpon on the nature cost. I seldom let them see my abilities when I thought I knew what I was doing. Stu Apte told me one time my casting technique reminded him of someone having a seizure.
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OP once you get tight on the flats with a mini freight train smoking your reel you will be hooked. Spend now or spend later . . .

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