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Old 01-10-2020, 01:02 PM
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Default Running several lines off a downrigger.

Sounds crazy but I think it is doable. The rods would be lined up across the transom. The left rod would be to the deepest clip, middle to the middle and right rod to the shallowest clip. Some blowback would be needed. It would be a similar setup to kite fishing. Only problem I see is when a fish hits the line getting stuck on the hook. That's why the rods would need to be lined across the transom.
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We run multiples at times. Most of the time we use a shower curtain clip from wally world and a rubber band as our clips. The only time we use actual dowrigger clips is if we are super slow trolling and need to get a bait down quickly.

Using the shower curtain clips allows you to re-deploy without bringing the whole thing up. So in your pic above, imagine the middle line gets bit, you land the fish without having to bring everything in. With shower curtains you just release the drag on the upper line, drop it down to where the middle line was, then re-deploy a new line up top. Same if the bottom line gets bit, drop both lines down, add another on top.
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Is this fairly common? I've never heard of anyone doing this in FL.
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This is rather common in Italy and works great!
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Shorter leads (clip to lure or bait) higher up reduces chance of released line catching a lure.
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The Alaska guys call it stacking lines. Works well but can be a cluster **** if not done correctly or you get multiple feisty fish on.
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It’s very common out west for salmon, trout, and particularly Kokanee.

Stacking only works for low speed trolling. At typical Florida speeds, there would be too much blowback from all the drag.
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Originally Posted by DocStressor View Post
It’s very common out west for salmon, trout, and particularly Kokanee.

Stacking only works for low speed trolling. At typical Florida speeds, there would be too much blowback from all the drag.
A Z-Wing is almost a must for normal trolling speeds with a downrigger. Very little blowback, but you better have a stout setup holding it. We have stacked downlines on a Z-Wing and it works well, but your trolled bait has to be decently heavy to keep the line tight.
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I don't know much about downriggers, so what keeps the line from sliding up the downrigger line? I've seen people post on here in the past about using a paper clip or show curtain clip with a rubber band and sending a line down a downrigger so they don't have to pull everything up once a fish hits. How exactly does that work with it not coming back up?
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Originally Posted by blb078 View Post
I don't know much about downriggers, so what keeps the line from sliding up the downrigger line? I've seen people post on here in the past about using a paper clip or show curtain clip with a rubber band and sending a line down a downrigger so they don't have to pull everything up once a fish hits. How exactly does that work with it not coming back up?
with the boat moving the angle of the downrigger line will be kicked back behind the boat. The drag from the lure/bait will take the shower curtain ring down the downrigger line. when you get to the depth you want engage the reel. The only way for it to come back up is for you to physically reel it back up, or the fish to pop the rubber band.
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In Italy this kind of clips are used and they are available in US at Tackle4All
The lower one goes on the weight/planer, the other slides on the line and if he releases the clip will slide down and a new one can used and slide to the desired depth.
So the wight/planer does not have to be recovered if the upper releases.
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These are the most popular ones used for Pacific salmon:

Scotty Powergrip Plus

They stay pretty much where you put them on the wire but Scotty sells crimp sleeves that hold them exactly at whatever depth you put them. Scotty also uses stoppers that automatically shut down their electric downriggers as each stacked clip reaches the surface.

I've used them in the Gulf but you are sort of limited as to how big a lure that you can pull without self-releasing. They are great for spoons but not so much for plugs.
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I’ve seen this done and have done it myself in the Great Lakes for trout and salmon.
shower curtain rings and little Chartreuse clothespins,
it worked well. Stacking 2-3 lines on one rigger.
I think I still have some of them in the cellar.
may be bait size restrictive. We were trolling fairly light metal spoons.
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I use the Scotty Powergrips referred to above for stacking lines on a single rigger. It works well. I have had very few times when a released clip line catches another lure, but when you get a big salmon I generally clear the lines anyway and focus on the one fish.

We also run "cheaters" here that puts one extra lure on the single rod. Basically you make up a line about 6ft long with a strong snap swivel at both ends. First lure is attached normally, then attach to the rigger and drop it down to about half the depth you want to run the bottom lure. Then put the second lure on your cheater lead, and attach the other end of the cheater lead over the line and toss it in. Then drop the ball to the desired depth for the bottom lure. The top one will stay roughly in the bow of the line blowback and will run above the first lure. So you run two depths at once on one line. If a fish hits the cheater will run down and stop at the swivel on the bottom lure and not impede things.

The only time things get messed up is if current or speed lets the cheater run down to the lower lure. You get a twisted mess and may not know about it until you decide to check the lures because you are not getting bites. So when I run cheaters I check and reset often.
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Deepest rod on the inside (close to transom) and the higher lines stacked from there outboard, highest line should be slightly forward and the furthest out.
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I've done it successfully with 2 lines...3 turned out to be a mess a couple of times so I gave up on using more than two.
I also used a planer rather than a ball, and used double snap swivels with rubber bands.
A fish taking the lower line can easily foul the upper line, but it's fishin'!
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Originally Posted by SnapperPsycho View Post
Is this fairly common? I've never heard of anyone doing this in FL.
Yes.. maybe not in Fla..great lakes fisherman have been doing it since the dawn of downrigging.. its called stacking..hence the multitude of "stacker" releases on the market ..

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