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Old 11-21-2019, 12:03 PM
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Going to build up a 8'10 1 piece 20-40 popping rod for a Shimano stella 8000 and was wondering if anyone could give me some advice. I want to keep the rod as light weight as possible as I will holding it in my hand fishing for tarpon/jacks/ sharks off the jetties.

1.should I go with an aluminum reel seat or plastic?
2. Can anyone tell me how many guides I should put on a 10'8? How many of each size? I was thinking Fuji K SiC guides but I think those guides look bulky, can anyone recommend any other specific model guide?
3. For hand and butt grips I was thinking EVA grips, anyone know of anything lighter?

Any other advice that you can offer on the build would be great, thanks
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1 For big fish, and rod that size, I'd go with aluminum or a heavy duty Fuji.
2 General rule is for conventional, use 1 guide per foot or 1 guide per foot plus 1. For spin, 1 guide per foot or 1 guide per foot minus 1. For a better estimate regarding sizes and numbers, call Mudhole
3 Cork is lighter than EVA
Old 11-22-2019, 10:06 AM
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titanium guides, aluminum reel seat and carbon fiber split grip
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Old 11-25-2019, 10:42 AM
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Go with the regular fuji reel seat. The aluminum ones are overkill for the 8000 size reels. 40 sized stripping guide down to 12 would be ideal. Fuji is worth the price as they are longer lasting that most. sic guide inserts are nice. titanium is a waste as the rod will begin to out-age the guides. I would look at two pieces blanks like the ones oti and some others sell. so much easier to transport in the truck. Eva grips are the best deal in town, cork will rot in surf/shore fishing over time. I would not do split grip if I was fishing from shore. buy a few more 12 guides that you think you might need, test wrap the rod and see where the bend requires guides. it really depends on what blank.
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A few good points given here.

You need to do a deflection test to really know where your guides belong.
Tape them on, tape the reel on put the line through the guides and bend the rod.
adjust accordingly. On Most spinning rods 5-6 guides are adequate.

it wouldn’t hurt to find the spine of the blank and build on that. I don’t think this is necessarily critical on many of today’s blanks but I always do it anyway.

I hate aluminum reel seats except on the biggest of conventional rods.
Just use a regular Fuji seat. Eva grips. I like split butt grips. Weight reduction and they look cool

here, study this a bit: https://anglersresource.net/static-load-tutorial/

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I'm not sure you can use 8'10" and light in the same sentence....
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Maybe shrink grip might be lighter than cork or eva

Old 11-29-2019, 10:15 PM
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Fuji kw is what most guys use for jetty sticks, you can get away with a size 30 for the stripper guide as the guide height of the Fuji kw 30 is equivalent to most size 40 guides.

Titanium is the way to go for light weight but they are $$$$. You can also start with a double foot guide for your stripper and transition to single foot guides, it really lightens a rod up. An example would be Fuji kw30- kl 20- kl 12- kt 8 or 10 running guides.

Read up on Fuji’s new guide concept, get some guides, and tape them on and practice cast till you find the best configuration. That is what makes a custom rod a custom rod.

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