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Old 11-08-2019, 11:59 AM
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Hello everyone, I have done flats fishing for years now but have recently started fishing around and in Tampa bay for snapper and grouper. I have been using my 3000 size spinning reels though and break off all the bigger fish in the rocks. Iím looking for a smaller sized conventional reel to catch smaller snapper around 20 inches and grouper up to 30Ē but could occasionally catch something a little bigger as well. I was considering a avet mxj in either the 5.8 g2 version or the raptor because I would like a small light reel with a good amount of drag. Would this be a good reel for that purpose or would something else work better? Thanks
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Old 11-08-2019, 12:22 PM
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Shimano Toriums are excellent reels especially for their price point. Also I would consider a Shimano Tyrnos. Just depends if you want a star drag or a level drag reel. Both are excellent value options perfect for all around reef fishing (bottom & surface).
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+1 on toriums. Talica 2 speeds are great (the low gear option for grouper) but double the price.
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Okay thanks, Iíll check them out. What size would you recommend for the size of fish I mentioned
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I use the toriums 16hg with 50lb braid for snapper. Iíve caught 6ft sharks with them. My kids can handle them well.
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Old 11-08-2019, 01:48 PM
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Okay thanks
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Old 11-08-2019, 02:13 PM
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Many of us are big fans of star drag reels for bottom fishing....

The architecture of lever drag reels doesn't make it that great for bottom fishing if in the hands of the uninformed. Moving that drag lever up past the set point for the reel can damage pinion bearings.

Soooo...that still leaves a lot of reels. As mentioned the Torium is a good fit. Anywhere from the 16 to the 30. There are two models, a HG (high gear) and a PG (power gear). The newer PG is a little lower gear 4.6:1 and has a stout 33 lbs of drag.

Trinidads in the 16-30 size also lend themselves to being good for snapper, grouper and the like. If a Daiwa fan both the Saltist and Saltiga are good. If a Penn fan, the Fathom has a lot of followers, along with the Squall and the Torque..

Try fitting any of the above to a stout Trevala or Terez jigging rod. We use the Trevala 6-6 heavy, rated for 80-200 braid.

Folks are probably tired of seeing this pic...I post it a lot...but it is of a 60-80 goliath I pulled off the rocks using a Torium 16 (modified) and a Trevala Heavy..

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Thanks for the help, I like the torium and the saltist so far so I will look more into those
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I recommended Ricks thorium 16 pg to my 2 of my fishing buddy's and they love them. Lightweight and can pull up the big Groupers. Paired with the Shimano trevala your good to go.
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If you are comfortable with a spinner, thereís no reason you canít stick with one if you wish. If you want to go that route I would look at a Saragosa 1000SW. I have killed a ton of fish with them in charter service and got some for my personal arsenal as well.
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If you are comfortable with a spinner, thereís no reason you canít stick with one if you wish. If you want to go that route I would look at a Saragosa 1000SW. I have killed a ton of fish with them in charter service and got some for my personal arsenal as well.
That is my set up on a terez and I love it.
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Originally Posted by Rapchizzle View Post
If you are comfortable with a spinner, thereís no reason you canít stick with one if you wish. If you want to go that route I would look at a Saragosa 1000SW. I have killed a ton of fish with them in charter service and got some for my personal arsenal as well.
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That is my set up on a terez and I love it.
True....

Some of my other rigs that i put in the hands of those that like a big spinner are the older Penn 650-750 SSM's

Personally when I want to change it up a bit, I have a Sustain 8000FI on a nice Terez, and that is a pretty fun rig. That's one rod that always seems to bend and not break! Not cheap, however.

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Hello everyone, I have done flats fishing for years now but have recently started fishing around and in Tampa bay for snapper and grouper. I have been using my 3000 size spinning reels though and break off all the bigger fish in the rocks. Iím looking for a smaller sized conventional reel to catch smaller snapper around 20 inches and grouper up to 30Ē but could occasionally catch something a little bigger as well. I was considering a avet mxj in either the 5.8 g2 version or the raptor because I would like a small light reel with a good amount of drag. Would this be a good reel for that purpose or would something else work better? Thanks
penn fathom 40 narrow. Lever drag. Model 40nld
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penn fathom 40 narrow. Lever drag. Model 40nld
Thatís what I use, have the 15LD2, 25NLD2 and 40NLD2
all 2 speed which makes a night & day difference. I also have a few spinners for light duties and friends that donít know/like using conventional reels but those 2 speed when fishing near structure is a winner. I you prefer star drags then a lower gear ratio would serve you better, something like Rickís Torium 16PG with a Trevala is a fish killing machine.
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If your only fishing for snapper and <30Ē grouper get the torium hg. The 6.2 ratio gets them in quick. If you want to go for bigger grouper go with the pg to get more drag.
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The selections that are available today are overwhelming. Light 2 speed reels: Makaira 10ii sea, Fathom 25, Saltiga 3000, Penn Torque, Avet raptor. Just to name a few.
Star drag: Penn Fathom, Torium, Penn # 114, and lots more.
Excellent rods: Phenix Black Diamond, Shimano Terez, Okuma PCH.
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Okay thanks everyone for the replies, I am still just looking over all the options. I actually found a Chinese made reel for 100$ on eBay that claims to have 60 pounds of drag and weigh 15 oz. I bought it to try it out for fun but am still looking at one of the name brand reels as well.
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Okay thanks everyone for the replies, I am still just looking over all the options. I actually found a Chinese made reel for 100$ on eBay that claims to have 60 pounds of drag and weigh 15 oz. I bought it to try it out for fun but am still looking at one of the name brand reels as well.
Nooooo

Rick has a nice Penn 6/0 for sale if you are budget conscious. Great bottom reel!
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[QUOTE=gofastsandman;13094998]Nooooo

Rick has a nice Penn 6/0 for sale if you are budget conscious. Great bottom reel![/
haha Im actually not too budget conscious and am looking for a nice small light reel. I actually already own some penn 6/0 and they are great for the price, just looking for something small. I donít expect this eBay reel to be good, just thought I would try it out for fun while I shop around,
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Nooooo

Rick has a nice Penn 6/0 for sale if you are budget conscious. Great bottom reel!
haha Im actually not too budget conscious and am looking for a nice small light reel. I actually already own some penn 6/0 and they are great for the price, just looking for something small. I donít expect this eBay reel to be good, just thought I would try it out for fun while I shop around, 60 pounds of drag at 100$ is an incredible claim, and I have seen some good reviews for them online as well.
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