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Old 09-24-2019, 01:32 PM
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I go out on a couple offshore trips a year and bring a rod/reel for catching squid. Last time I brought a Mitchell 300PRO Reel which worked fine before leaving. While trying to use it on the boat once we got out there it was very jerky and hard to reel in or cast. This last time I brought a Piscifun Flame Spinning Reels Light Weight Ultra Smooth Powerful Spinning Fishing Reels (2000 Series) which also was nice and smooth before going. Didnt even get a chance to use it, no squid around. When I was putting it away after getting home I noticed the same thing. I could barely reel it, it was tightened up. I'm wondering if there is anything I can do to get it nice and smooth again and is it the salt water causing these issues? My Battle II 6000 did not have this problem on the same trip, although I did bust the bail on a giant Mahi

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Are you rinsing after?
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No, I did not rinse, is it too late? It was only a week ago.
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Are the reels riding on the gunnel rodholders? If so they can be subjected to a lot of salt spray on the boat ride. Try putting them on the T top or towards the center of the boat. A light, low pressure rinse after every trip wouldn't hurt either.

I just bought a couple spinfisher 6s for the extra seals. I normally get 2 or 3 years on Penn fierce 2s using them offshore before the bearings start to go. But my reels see a lot of spray on the boat ride....
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Corrosion has already started.
Needs to be pulled apart and cleaned and regressed.
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Always rinse after using a reel in saltwater. It couldn't hurt to rinse now. You may just have some salt in there. Make sure the drag isn't too loose before rinsing. This keeps water out of the drag system. Don't rinse with too strong a stream of water. Just a good light flushing rinse.

I doubt your reels are destroyed or anything. If a rinse doesn't cut it, you may need to take them apart and re-grease them.
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I dont think those reels are intended for saltwater fishing...anything in that price range is not going to hold up when taken offshore unless broken down and serviced regularly.

If tight, the bearings have already ingested some salt water and will need to be replaced.

I know it's a little late, but for what you spent on those you could have bought some older Penn Spinfisher 4000 - 5000 series and had a reel that would last.
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I don't know if it's the absolute best, but I like to flush/rinse my reels and lures very well after each use. Then apply some 4wd 40. I hold them over the water for this so as not to live up the deck. Wd 40 as I understand is mostly whale oil. At any rate it's not very toxic as some lubes will be and does help displace and replace the fresh water.

I think those Mitchell's as fine as they are, weren't made for salt. So, they do need good rinsing and stepped up lubrication and maintenance schedule. We use some freshwater ultra lites some days. I do not ride the where salt water spray will hit them as they would not tolerate a saltwater bath too well.
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Salt water fishing - buy once cry once.

sorry you learned the hard way friend.
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Originally Posted by Finsinchessy View Post
I don't know if it's the absolute best, but I like to flush/rinse my reels and lures very well after each use. Then apply some 4wd 40. I hold them over the water for this so as not to live up the deck. Wd 40 as I understand is mostly whale oil. At any rate it's not very toxic as some lubes will be and does help displace and replace the fresh water.

I think those Mitchell's as fine as they are, weren't made for salt. So, they do need good rinsing and stepped up lubrication and maintenance schedule. We use some freshwater ultra lites some days. I do not ride the where salt water spray will hit them as they would not tolerate a saltwater bath too well.
WD40 is toxic. I think someone was pulling your leg about the whale oil thing. The oil is supposed to be mineral oil, everything else in the can is poison.
https://files.wd40.com/pdf/sds/mup/w...sds-us-ghs.pdf

The problem with spray is you get oil all over, which will eventually attract dirt. A light oil out of dropper and gear grease on gears is much better. My penn battle II and Squall LD60s hold up fine with a rinse every use and some light oil every now and again.
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Originally Posted by Jason9876 View Post
WD40 is toxic. I think someone was pulling your leg about the whale oil thing. The oil is supposed to be mineral oil, everything else in the can is poison.
wd-40-multi-use-product-aerosol-low-voc-sds-us-ghs.pdf

The problem with spray is you get oil all over, which will eventually attract dirt. A light oil out of dropper and gear grease on gears is much better. My penn battle II and Squall LD60s hold up fine with a rinse every use and some light oil every now and again.
I completely disagree with this.

I have been servicing fishing reels since I was 12...that was almost 60 years ago. For the longest time all I had was that red and white can with the nipple top....3 in 1 oil. It served me well for years and years.

I started using WD40 in the 70's. And I still have reels and a couple of rods left over from those days. My technique was to spray it on a rag, wipe the gear down BEFORE I went fishing. Once back they were thoroughly rinsed and then sprayed again and put away.

I still follow that procedure today.

I buy WD40 in liquid form, by the gallons. It is mixed with the mineral spirits I use to rinse and flush grease and oils from every reel that enters my shop. I am currently servicing 600-800 reels a year, and many of them come back to me every few years. I am not seeing any damage to those reels from using this liquid.

My first new motor was bought in 1986...a Yamaha 90. Every trip after running it, I flushed it and when running removed the fuel line and ran the carbs dry. Once it stopped I drenched the internals with WD40. I put over 1800 hrs on that motor in the nine years I owned it and it was never taken to a shop or failed in any way.

All the horror stories I heard about lines rotting and electrical connections failing due to WD40 were proven to be false.

Just my experience.
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I don't think WD40 is all bad. You said you spray on a rag and wipe down? That is different then directly spraying the reel with it.

Do you wipe it on the outside of the painted graphite reels or are you talking about unpainted aluminum reels?
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I practically bath my reels with WD. It's good stuff. Yes it will wash out the grease if you over use it, but still. Heck I spray all my guides and my reel seats to. It's good stuff. And after some 30 years I'd know if there were any problems.

Yes other sprays may be better, say reel magic for instance. But cost significantly more.
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WD 40 displaces water so it’s the bomb for post freshwater rinse use.
I chase off the water with it, and later, after they’re dry, I dose them again with Corrosion Block, and also tear them clear down every year, degrease, and start over with fresh Cal’s Grease.
Anyone who’s serious about fishing has got to be just as serious about maintenance too!
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Originally Posted by Finsinchessy View Post
I don't know if it's the absolute best, but I like to flush/rinse my reels and lures very well after each use. Then apply some 4wd 40. I hold them over the water for this so as not to live up the deck. Wd 40 as I understand is mostly whale oil. At any rate it's not very toxic as some lubes will be and does help displace and replace the fresh water.

I think those Mitchell's as fine as they are, weren't made for salt. So, they do need good rinsing and stepped up lubrication and maintenance schedule. We use some freshwater ultra lites some days. I do not ride the where salt water spray will hit them as they would not tolerate a saltwater bath too well.
Wait, hold up - WHALE oil?

Not sure if serious.....🤨
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Couple of things:

1. The reels mentioned are not really of higher quality or saltwater use.
2. WD40 is not whale oil. It us a great lubricant/protectant for rods and reels.
3. I personally lightly spray all my rods and reels with water, dry them and then I spray Corrosion X onto a rag and wipe them down. Its real methodical, but my stuff stays in really nice shape year over year.
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Originally Posted by Jason9876 View Post
WD40 is toxic. I think someone was pulling your leg about the whale oil thing. The oil is supposed to be mineral oil, everything else in the can is poison.
https://files.wd40.com/pdf/sds/mup/w...sds-us-ghs.pdf

The problem with spray is you get oil all over, which will eventually attract dirt. A light oil out of dropper and gear grease on gears is much better. My penn battle II and Squall LD60s hold up fine with a rinse every use and some light oil every now and again.
Wow! "WD-40 is Toxic" Not according to the California MSDS link you posed. It clearly states "Restrictions on Use: None identified" in BOLD. Anything in California deemed toxic would surelt have restrictions on it's use.
Everything else is poison?!!! Here is what the MSDS says: Ecotoxicity: No specific aquatic toxicity data is currently available; however components of this product are not expected to be harmful to aquatic organisms
I completely agree with Triumphrick. I have also been using for decades with no issues at all. ALL oils and greases will attract and hold dust and dirt.
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Thanks everyone. I'll try rinsing and oiling it. If that doesnt work I'll look at a more salt water friendly spinner.
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I think the reason for spraying on the rag is your not getting it all over especially including the line fish will smell it, and it will probably not last as long with Wd-40 on it.

A simple spray with water light rub with a car wash mitt dunked in soap and wash off, I only use oil on them a couple times a year, your reels will last forever I have plenty of reels 30 years old that look 2 years old.
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Many years ago people would use wd40 as a fish attractant , spraying it on lures , baits , and even on rags with hooks . I never did it , but would always spray my Rapalas after rinsing them .

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