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MayhemFT 09-10-2019 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by N2theblue (Post 12917017)

I also think its funny so many people are blaming the poor fishing when I was told not very long ago on this board that the fishing is still great down there and well worth the money and the long trip. Now it sounds like folks are saying it might not be.

Thereís a reason you donít see the social media posts of boards full of tuna anymore. Couple of weeks ago I was trolling a drillship and there were 15 or so boats there fishing for tuna, and most of charter boats. Only a few small tuna were caught there that day.

N2theblue 09-10-2019 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by MayhemFT (Post 12917248)
Thereís a reason you donít see the social media posts of boards full of tuna anymore. Couple of weeks ago I was trolling a drillship and there were 15 or so boats there fishing for tuna, and most of charter boats. Only a few small tuna were caught there that day.

I know, and I made that point just a few short months ago and was told I didn't know what I was talking about.


cg1 09-10-2019 04:58 PM

Story sounds legit to me. Would be helpful to others to name the captain.

I cant believe anyone tries to defend the charter company. I would be pissed if I paid $300 on a charter and got treated that way. I think the ďitís a hard job, lots of captains are dicksĒ excuse is classic. What a joke. Doesnít take much of a downturn in economy for $3k day trip charters to be a hard sell. Iíd be treating my customers like gold right now.


John_Madison CT 09-10-2019 06:32 PM

I'd have the last laugh when I gave then NO tip. For $3K they should be kissing your butt.

slickster 09-10-2019 06:48 PM

Fished out of Venice a fair amount, the charter biz has gone to a new level, $650,000 boats and a large increase in number of captains and boats to choose from, now it's all about the money IMO....most charters will try for tuna for a bit, then either go sword fishing or do the amber jerk, in the winter/ spring it's wahoo if no tuna are around, no excuse for a capt/ mate to give the attitude to their paying clients....

Miller29429 09-11-2019 04:57 AM

Fished with Colin Byrd down there this year. Nice enough guys. Sorry about your experience, it sounds 100% accurate. I would have lost my shit. Also, I would mention the boat you fished on. You aren't protecting anyone by not calling out the boat and captain. If a restaurant sucks, they get a bad review. MGFC should be calling you with a minimum $1500 credit card refund which should come right out of the captains pocket.
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ERG153 09-11-2019 05:28 AM

Not sure if it was mentioned, but would you mind sharing how much you tipped? Perfectly understandable if you don’t, I’m just curious.

sea hoss 09-11-2019 06:04 AM

I must have been doing this wrong all this time. I've been paying Eddie for over a decade now to abuse once or twice a year...:rofl: Seriously OP, I'm sorry you had a bad experience and you shouldn't leave thinking all of Venice is that way. From what I've seen in Venice this (which is only 2 trips) I would hazard to guess some of these Capt's have to be worrying about paying for these 3/4 million dollar boats at this point. I've been chartering and carrying my own boat to Venice for the last 20 years and have seen the place change unbelievably. I've also had shit charters down there as well as many more fantastic charters. Hopefully if you ever go back you will have a much better experience. I as well as my fishing mates have been asked to get out of the deckhands spot, but a 65 year old man IMO is a different story.

triumphrick 09-11-2019 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by Troutchaser21 (Post 12916917)
I run a 42' CC out of Galveston so yes I would consider myself an "exception" to the general customer. .

Brother, you need to change that screen name.....

:grin:

Troutchaser21 09-11-2019 06:17 AM

Itís interesting how many PMís Iíve gotten guessing it was Colin Byrd..seems we werenít the only ones..

Miller29429 09-11-2019 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by Troutchaser21 (Post 12918524)
It’s interesting how many PM’s I’ve gotten guessing it was Colin Byrd..seems we weren’t the only ones..

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Makes sense.

Colin Byrd's young mate does have quite the chip on his shoulder. I think he's trying his best to be like Colin. I can totally picture him kicking your dad out of his seat like that.
IMO a lot of those guys can use a customer service class. They have bad ass boats & catch fish but that's only half of the job. The other half is making me, my wife & my family happy. I'm not asking you to kiss my ass but if my father wants to sit in a captains chair next to the captain then your mate can stand on the other side of the leaning post if he needs to talk.

spearfish25 09-11-2019 07:14 AM

Post the captain and boat. I'm a doctor and patients post reviews all the time. This is the age of social media. Reviews are expected, so don't be shy.


Colin Byrd. Colin, may your behavior be reflected by your increasing number of days sitting at the dock.

scooperfl 09-11-2019 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by Liveactionfishing (Post 12916503)
I chartered voodoo a couple months ago and the seating scenario was the same, clients in the back. I was booted out of the mates seat too, totally understandable when you have a bunch of captains driving 20k lb missiles at 50+ mph down rivers and creeks and dodging the 1000ís of rigs just offshore. If thatís my boat, Iím putting the best set of eyes I know (the mate) right next to me to help keep my passengers safe.

That was not the point and the OP said as much. If it was explained politely and respectfully in order to increase safety or as a training opportunity, I doubt there would have been a problem. Believing that the young mate disrespected your father is going leave an impression that most would find impossible to forgive or forget.

Fishing 200 days per year is a grind, but the ENTIRE JOB of a charter crew is to make sure customers have a great day, tell their friends, and want to come back. Barring some ridiculous circumstance, it's a fail when this does not happen.

N2theblue 09-11-2019 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by Miller29429 (Post 12918570)
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Makes sense.

Colin Byrd's young mate does have quite the chip on his shoulder. I think he's trying his best to be like Colin. I can totally picture him kicking your dad out of his seat like that.
IMO a lot of those guys can use a customer service class. They have bad ass boats & catch fish but that's only half of the job. The other half is making me, my wife & my family happy. I'm not asking you to kiss my ass but if my father wants to sit in a captains chair next to the captain then your mate can stand on the other side of the leaning post if he needs to talk.


And guess what, if you are nice to clients and treat them right they can have an enjoyable trip even if the fishing is less than stellar.

Kenny Powers 09-11-2019 07:57 AM

I help out with a waterfowl outfitter. Our reviews are very good, but there's always one every year it seems. Usually a very high strung type A personality, demanding things sometimes weeks before their trip, bossing everybody around, usually their own group is in the "just tolerating this guy" camp..... Then he'll go online and make some accusations only half founded in truth, but fully not understanding how the game works....

For the record, I'm not at all saying you're this guy, bad charters/captains definitely exist. I'm just saying there are 3 sides to every story; and I'd love to hear theirs.

Vantaredoc 09-11-2019 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by Kenny Powers (Post 12918911)
I help out with a waterfowl outfitter. Our reviews are very good, but there's always one every year it seems. Usually a very high strung type A personality, demanding things sometimes weeks before their trip, bossing everybody around, usually their own group is in the "just tolerating this guy" camp..... Then he'll go online and make some accusations only half founded in truth, but fully not understanding how the game works....

For the record, I'm not at all saying you're this guy, bad charters/captains definitely exist. I'm just saying there are 3 sides to every story; and I'd love to hear theirs.

Yeah, especially the part about not wanting to give up a little ice after the guy spent 3 thousand freaking dollars to ride on a Freeman!

Blazer7420 09-11-2019 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by Liveactionfishing (Post 12916503)
I chartered voodoo a couple months ago and the seating scenario was the same, clients in the back. I was booted out of the mates seat too, totally understandable when you have a bunch of captains driving 20k lb missiles at 50+ mph down rivers and creeks and dodging the 1000ís of rigs just offshore. If thatís my boat, Iím putting the best set of eyes I know (the mate) right next to me to help keep my passengers safe.

No wonder they end up in the bushes.
A bunch of cocky mofo's for sure.


ed d 09-11-2019 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by Vantaredoc (Post 12919058)
Yeah, especially the part about not wanting to give up a little ice after the guy spent 3 thousand freaking dollars to ride on a Freeman!

:rofl: That part grated on me too . Really ? smucks .

MakoMyDay 09-11-2019 09:13 AM

Venice guide had an attitude? NO Way! Was the water wet down there also?


There's a few that are really nice, some that I'm friends with. There's also a LOT who are cocky jackasses that think they're better than you. It's been that way for 25 years. Now there's just twice as many guides as there used to be, so twice as many turds too. Nobody likes paying to get bossed around.

20biminitwist 09-11-2019 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by MayhemFT (Post 12917248)
There’s a reason you don’t see the social media posts of boards full of tuna anymore. Couple of weeks ago I was trolling a drillship and there were 15 or so boats there fishing for tuna, and most of charter boats. Only a few small tuna were caught there that day.

Following along here as I had a post a while back inquiring about a trip to Venice to Tuna Fish.

I'm in the business and have kinda seen it all from both perspectives. Been on some good trips with only a few fish and some bad trips with a ton of fish.
To include my boat and quite a few charters.

I looked long and hard and talked to some buddies including my mate on my boat to put the trip together.

We decided to go back to Cabo!
I can fish 2 days for the price of one trip in Venice and be on a nice convertible and catch YFT, Dorado, Black, Blue and Striped Marlin as well as Sailfish and Wahoo. Yes, we have had some slow days there but we have also caught all of the specie I mentioned here. All that without a long high speed run in a open boat.
I also have been treated very well and actually communicated with the Captain I use this morning as we have become amigo's over the years.

The Venice trips still intrigues me but from what I have seen and expected all this pressure from the recent increase of high speed long range boats may be taking it's toll on the fishery. For the time being it seems business is great but one has to wonder if it's sustainable.

Back to the OP, I wish I could get away with being a dick with my clients and not be named in a bad review.
Heck, come on down and maybe I will give you a discount after I clean your fish if you don't ask for some ice!


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