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paragod689 09-21-2019 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by Bluewaterbyrd42 (Post 12950036)



actually. All of our boats are captain owned and operated. Billy freeman has nothing to do with MGFC other than having his name on the side of the boat. Two of the captains own the company of MGFC but our boats are all individually owned by the captains as independent contractors. As for the rest of the Venice charter fleet which are mostly owned by a single owner of that named charter service. Odd how rumors start....

This is pure interest and fact-finding but does Billy not have to approve sale pricing of the boats when sold?

Marlin308 09-21-2019 07:30 AM

Iíve personally fished with multiple charter captains in Venice over the last decade. I canít speak of the captain identified in this thread, but Jordan Ellis with MGFC is one of the best captains Iíve ever used. Not only is he a fish killing SOB, heís one of the all around best dudes youíll ever meet. Totally professional at all times and someone Iíd have a beer with anytime.


pwrhd 09-21-2019 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by Marlin308 (Post 12950257)
Iíve personally fished with multiple charter captains in Venice over the last decade. I canít speak of the captain identified in this thread, but Jordan Ellis with MGFC is one of the best captains Iíve ever used. Not only is he a fish killing SOB, heís one of the all around best dudes youíll ever meet. Totally professional at all times and someone Iíd have a beer with anytime.


Could not agree more. I'm fishing with him two days next week.

N2theblue 09-22-2019 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by paragod689 (Post 12950184)


This is pure interest and fact-finding but does Billy not have to approve sale pricing of the boats when sold?



What does that have to do with anything. Most manufacturers have special pricing for certain clients. For example, Yellowfin has for years done a deal where if you agree to buy a new boat every year then you get reduced pricing.

Saltybrad 09-22-2019 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by meritmat (Post 12926245)
Still struggling with this 3k for a days fishing.....is that because itís a 42 foot boat? How much for the old 31 foot B?

Haha you should probably avoid halibut fishing then...Having fished with Colin, I can say the operation is run like a swiss watch. He takes the fishing extremely seriously and if you pay attention you can learn a ton of things. One for me was the bead on the sabiki rods. As I was told to reel the bead to the tip while getting hardtails off the rigs, I still would always leave a gap making it harder for them to debait the sabiki. I applaud the guys at MGFC for putting up with folks that are stubborn and full of extremely high expectations while trying to deliver on some demanding fishing.

paragod689 09-22-2019 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by N2theblue (Post 12952564)
What does that have to do with anything. Most manufacturers have special pricing for certain clients. For example, Yellowfin has for years done a deal where if you agree to buy a new boat every year then you get reduced pricing.

Did you miss you the part where I typed ďpure interestĒ and ďfact-findingĒ? It was a question I was curious about. Thank you for explaining how builders price their boats for repeat customers. My question was regarding selling them.

raven316 09-23-2019 02:32 AM

Well i’m flyin to the Easy this morning and goin out of Venice tomorrow! I’m jacked, GO DAWGS!

JoseG 09-23-2019 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by Saltybrad (Post 12952577)
Haha you should probably avoid halibut fishing then...Having fished with Colin, I can say the operation is run like a swiss watch. He takes the fishing extremely seriously and if you pay attention you can learn a ton of things. One for me was the bead on the sabiki rods. As I was told to reel the bead to the tip while getting hardtails off the rigs, I still would always leave a gap making it harder for them to debait the sabiki. I applaud the guys at MGFC for putting up with folks that are stubborn and full of extremely high expectations while trying to deliver on some demanding fishing.

Itís probably to the fact that the extremely high expectations are connected to the extremely high charter cost, $3k plus fuel plus $xx.xx for a bucket of ice.

If these boats fish 250 days a year, they bring in $750k. Fuel is paid by customer. Without knowing too much about the operational cost, ROI seems good.

Bally Hooooo 09-23-2019 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by JoseG (Post 12954283)


Itís probably to the fact that the extremely high expectations are connected to the extremely high charter cost, $3k plus fuel plus $xx.xx for a bucket of ice.

If these boats fish 250 days a year, they bring in $750k. Fuel is paid by customer. Without knowing too much about the operational cost, ROI seems good.

The 3k included fuel, next time go check their charter pricing before you post stupid shit like this.

pooldoo73 09-23-2019 06:56 AM

Daily rates for the boats were posted in THIS thread. $3K was not a posted daily rate.

Marlin308 09-23-2019 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by JoseG (Post 12954283)


Itís probably to the fact that the extremely high expectations are connected to the extremely high charter cost, $3k plus fuel plus $xx.xx for a bucket of ice.

If these boats fish 250 days a year, they bring in $750k. Fuel is paid by customer. Without knowing too much about the operational cost, ROI seems good.

Daily rates vary from $1,800 to $2,000 plus fuel, depending on boat and captain. I've personally never had a fuel bill much over $600 when using MGFC.


paragod689 09-23-2019 05:42 PM

With weather I doubt most boats get 200 days in a year.

tbaxl 09-25-2019 03:46 PM

I gave up on Venice after last year, easier to just run to the same spot from other venues.

pooldoo73 09-27-2019 10:31 AM

I fished the captain referenced in this thread yesterday. Had a great trip. Can't wait to fish the next trip.

sunkcost 10-02-2019 08:53 AM

Mgfc
 
Iíll preface this with yes I expect to be bashed for the post, but itís an honest take from my charter with these guys. I fished on another 42 over the winter going down to Venice with expectations for great fishing and wanting to leave thinking the 42 would be my next boat and not a Viking.

Venice is a cool place and if the fishing and charter industry there dies so will the community.

I left saying i wouldnít fish with mgfc ever again and I would never be replacing my competitors 40 ft cc with a freeman. Iím also used to fishing on a boat with a lot of yelling, long northeast canyon runs on a cc and a grisly thick skinned crew. Iíll also never put a trip here over a trip to Costa Rica. Captain thought he walked on water, and felt like he was just taking us for a boat ride. Boat was a great platform, but didnít like the rough water that day as the journey south sea Vee ran right past us while we struggled to make 20 knots.

Not bashing anything, just concurring with some reviews above.

kaku 10-02-2019 10:30 AM

I would much rather go to Costa Rica for that much money not knocking Venice , I went out on cloudy off and on rainy day out of quepos and the fishing was off the hook.

bnz 10-02-2019 12:20 PM

Funny, I fished with Journey South back when they had their freeman and just got their SeaVee. Fished two days, one on each boat. Their Freeman was a much better ride and fishing platform and we made 35-40 in some rough stuff. Went out the next day in the SeaVee, and while faster, it was not anywhere close in terms of ride, even sitting on beanbags. Hated to see them get rid of that Freeman.

capt.gene 10-02-2019 12:37 PM

Rudeness and attitude when dealing with the paying customers are signs of burnout. Yesterdayís clients pissed me off so Iím unloading on you guys today.

marx88 10-02-2019 10:21 PM

When Collin pulls up to whodat and tosses 100s of live pogies out, I like to stand on the ttop and cast my popper right at'em! An if I ever get a chance imma hop on one of them mexican boats and let them treat me like shit, except I'll have plenty of beer and hookers and those guys will think I walk on water. Next time tip cocaine!

gamefish25 10-03-2019 04:09 AM


Originally Posted by joseg (Post 12954283)


itís probably to the fact that the extremely high expectations are connected to the extremely high charter cost, $3k plus fuel plus $xx.xx for a bucket of ice.

If these boats fish 250 days a year, they bring in $750k. Fuel is paid by customer. without knowing too much about the operational cost, roi seems good.


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