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Old 09-07-2019, 12:38 PM
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Hello everyone. I just wanted to get some quick information before i made my purchase.
What is the Size difference on the Penn SpinFisher VI 4500 Vs Battle 2 4000?
Is the Spinfisher 4500 Physicaly Bigger than the Battle 4000 or are they the same size?
I already know that the Spinfisher has more line capacity and more drag and is slightly heavier. But i want to know if there is a physical size difference between the 2. If anyone owns both and can let me know that would be amazing. I already Have a few Battle 2s 4000 But wanted to upgrade to the Spinfishers 4500 and needed to know if i also needed to upgrade Rods due to the size difference.

Also What do you guys think, Should i upgrade to the Spinfishers VI's (Currently $160) or just buy more Battle 2's (Currently $100) is it really that much of a difference? I Normaly Target Snook, Trout, Redfish, Jack C, Mackerels, and Similar sized Fish.
What experiences have you had with both of the reels Comment them below Bad and Good.
Also Comment the type of rod you have them paired with. I have My Battle 4000s paired with Penn 6'6 Legion FA's and Penn 7' Battalions XFA's
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Old 09-07-2019, 12:48 PM
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The spinfisher is a better reel. The battle has pot metal gears that can grind out with heavy use. The Spinfisher V did as well and we were constantly replacing the main gear and bails on them but the Spinfisher VI has a better main gear that we havenít had any issues with yet.
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Old 09-07-2019, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Rapchizzle View Post
The spinfisher is a better reel. The battle has pot metal gears that can grind out with heavy use. The Spinfisher V did as well and we were constantly replacing the main gear and bails on them but the Spinfisher VI has a better main gear that we havenít had any issues with yet.
That i did not know Thanks!. Im just worried about the size of the reel 4500 compared to the Battle 4000. Not sure if its actually bigger than it or same size. I went to local Tackle store and sadly they were sold out.
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Old 09-07-2019, 07:47 PM
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Penn reels priced below the Torque lineup are Chinese made and are subject to the same iffy metallurgy and quality control standards. These two specifically are going to be very similar, with the main difference being the spinfishers are "sealed". If they never get dunked, or pull more weight than they are made for, you'll do fine with either. If you like to push small reels and battle bigger fish, they will both let you down eventually. I have personally absolutely trashed the gears and bearings in 3 battles and 2 spinfishers using a 2-3000 sized reel offshore for offshore species in the GOM off South Texas. They each lasted 3-4 trips.
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Old 09-07-2019, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by POOLIO View Post
Penn reels priced below the Torque lineup are Chinese made and are subject to the same iffy metallurgy and quality control standards. These two specifically are going to be very similar, with the main difference being the spinfishers are "sealed". If they never get dunked, or pull more weight than they are made for, you'll do fine with either. If you like to push small reels and battle bigger fish, they will both let you down eventually. I have personally absolutely trashed the gears and bearings in 3 battles and 2 spinfishers using a 2-3000 sized reel offshore for offshore species in the GOM off South Texas. They each lasted 3-4 trips.
So They are both similar in size despite the number diffrence (4500) Vs (4000)?
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Old 09-07-2019, 08:12 PM
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Very close in size, with the spinfisher being a bit larger.
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Ssv 4500 is a beast and Iv fished mine hard jigging 80-90grams for 2 seasons now. The value is amazing and a very powerful reel. Last trip out it made quick work out of a few 30+Ē cobia
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Old 09-08-2019, 01:55 AM
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Stronger drag rating on the Spinfisher than on the Battle 2......ICM
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Old 09-08-2019, 02:22 AM
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The Spinfisher is noticeably larger and heavier. I have both.
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Old 09-08-2019, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by joetkach View Post
The Spinfisher is noticeably larger and heavier. I have both.
Dang, is there any way you can provide picture of them side by side? I just dont want to buy it then have to get a whole new rod because its bigger in size.
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Originally Posted by Kulo View Post
Dang, is there any way you can provide picture of them side by side? I just dont want to buy it then have to get a whole new rod because its bigger in size.

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Thanks but i already watched the videos lol its kind of hard to tell by 2 separate videos without an actual side by side. We do have a Bass Pro but its quite a long drive to go check it out sadly. Thank you though for helping!
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Try working backwards. What I mean is what are you planning to target with the reel?
If you're only need one & want to throw light lures - Go with the Battle 2.
If you want to throw bait / jigs / heavy lures for bigger stronger fish go with the Spinfisher.

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Originally Posted by Ice Cream Man View Post
Try working backwards. What I mean is what are you planning to target with the reel?
If you're only need one & want to throw light lures - Go with the Battle 2.
If you want to throw bait / jigs / heavy lures for bigger stronger fish go with the Spinfisher.

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A Stated in the Post I Normaly Target Snook, Trout, Redfish, Jack C, Mackerels, and Similar sized Fish. I want this Reel (Spinfisher 4500) to be Mostly used for Light Lures up to 2oz Lures and Live Bait. My Main concern is the size difference of the reel compared to the Battle 4000. I can avoid a hefty bill by going with the good ole Battle 4000 because i have spare rods that fit perfectly with them. As for the Spinfisher 4500 i do not know if the reel is physically bigger than the Battle 4000 by a lot of just a small bit. If they are the same size then i can avoid buying another $150+ Rod if it is bigger then i will need a Rod for it which is what im trying to avoid. But i for sure want the New Spinfisher reel.
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I use mostly all 3000 series reels on my boat for striped bass. I kept having internal gear failures with the Battle 2's. Heck I bought 5 new ones last year alone in the spring and had to send 3 in for repair in less than year. They never seemed smooth out of the box. The Spinfisher looks like a much nicer reel to me although I havent run them. A client had one (a 3500) on board several trips last fall. Only real downside I saw was that I surprised that the drag seemed very choppy.


Personally I switched all my spinning gear to Shimano this year and have been very happy so far. They are WAY smoother and lighter (and so far more durable). Me and several other guides in the area really like the value of the NASCIs.
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Old 09-09-2019, 12:26 PM
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Go with the Spinfisher 4500 better drag. Good for most of the species you're targeting, but not for all & maybe too heavy to cast all day.
Way overkill for Trout. ( I use a Battle 2 - 2000 series reel & Battle 2 - 1000 series reels )
Here's a thought, step down to a Spinfisher 3500.( I use Spinfisher 3500 for winter dock Reds fishing Shrimp )
Bring your rods to the local tackle shop to dry fit, feel the weight & comfort ...... ICM
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Originally Posted by Ice Cream Man View Post
Go with the Spinfisher 4500 better drag. Good for most of the species you're targeting, but not for all & maybe too heavy to cast all day.
Way overkill for Trout. ( I use a Battle 2 - 2000 series reel & Battle 2 - 1000 series reels )
Here's a thought, step down to a Spinfisher 3500.( I use Spinfisher 3500 for winter dock Reds fishing Shrimp )
Bring your rods to the local tackle shop to dry fit, feel the weight & comfort ...... ICM
Hmm Thats a great idea actually to bring my rods in for testing the reel fit. Thanks
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I just went down to my boat to check on the sizes. The spinfisher 4500 is slightly bigger than the battle 4000. Nest comparison I could give is meybe 1/2 a size bigger when looking at the difference between the battle 3000 and battle 4000. I also have a BG 3500 which is comparable to the spinfisher 4500 the difference not enough to notice ( Maybe slightly smaller).I have apparently been lucky with my battles as they are still smooth, but I have 7or 8 similar setups so there may not be super heavy use on them. All of them will work fine. I also have a pt40 Cabo but itís my heavy duty reel with 30# whereas the others mostly have 20# braid.

the battles are the lightest. The spinfisher is probably the heaviest but similar to the Cabo if I recall. Kind of splitt8ng hairs. Never got tired casting them and canít see how someone would unless a young child or someone elderly.

my two favorites are my Cabo and the daiwa BG, I only have this season on the new daiwa. The battles are great little light reels but only a matter of time I suppose before they are toast based on what others have said. They are clearly the lightest.

If I had to pick one light reel out of the ones I own and taking cost into consideration so far itís a BG3500 based on its performance. Long term I donít know as its new. My Cabo is the oldest among what I am currently using and has been flawless but quite a bit more $$$ and is a beefier reel.

all reels have been fine with false albacore, striper, bluefish, assorted ground fish, etc..

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Alright Everyone! I Went out and bought myself the Penn Spinfisher 4500. I want to thank everyone who gave advice Both Negative and Positive. I must say it is a very Handsome looking Reel, and the size of it is Perfect! I was worried it would have been too big and i would of needed to buy a new rod for it but as someone else said its litereally almost the same size as a Battle 2 4000 just a tad bit heavier. The store didn't have any line in stock so i am going to spool it up with 300 Yards of Power Pro Onyx 20lb Braid. The reel is paired with a Penn Battalion 7' Xtra Fast Action. Below are some picture to see the size next to a Battle 2 4000. Please Excuse the Shininess of the reels i just got done Coating them with Penn Rod & Reel Cleaner to protect it from the Salt. Thanks for all the Help!
Side Note: I will be Targeting Large Snook and Red fish with this set up using a mixture of Lures and Free lining Live Bait Lets hope the Rod can hold up to it!


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Originally Posted by POOLIO View Post
Penn reels priced below the Torque lineup are Chinese made and are subject to the same iffy metallurgy and quality control standards. These two specifically are going to be very similar, with the main difference being the spinfishers are "sealed". If they never get dunked, or pull more weight than they are made for, you'll do fine with either. If you like to push small reels and battle bigger fish, they will both let you down eventually. I have personally absolutely trashed the gears and bearings in 3 battles and 2 spinfishers using a 2-3000 sized reel offshore for offshore species in the GOM off South Texas. They each lasted 3-4 trips.
Sounds like a case of miss use. They are not winches. Use the rod to lift fish up through the water column and the reel to retrieve line as you bring the rod back down. Also, 3000 series reels are more suit for inshore species. I switched all my spinning gear over to Spinfishers a couple years ago, 3500s-trout, small reds, 4500s-spades, stripers, 5500/6500s Cobia, bull reds etc, and have had zero issues with weekly use. They are not $160 reels either, wait for discount season and get them around $100. Great value IMHO.
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