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Penn Squall 2-speed VS Fathom 2-speed

Old 09-04-2019, 04:38 AM
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Default Penn Squall 2-speed VS Fathom 2-speed

Does the Squall VSW 2-speed have any advantage over the Fathom 2-speed besides spool size? The Fathom 60 2-speed is lighter, holds tons of line, makes more drag and has a metal frame. Iím about to buy 3 or 4 tuna reels and Iím trying to figure out why I shouldnít just get the largest Fathom 2 speed?? Any guidance from the Penn gurus?

Fathom 60 LD2 is 27 ounces and makes 40 lbs of drag and holds 800 yards of 80# braid for $220. Almost seems too good to be true
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Old 09-04-2019, 05:53 AM
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You canít go wrong with the fathoms LD2ís whatever size you go with , those reels are solid .
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Old 09-06-2019, 02:03 PM
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You get what you pay for. The fathoms my friends bought to jig with (read heavy service and frequent use) did not last long. Another fishing buddy I know has a squall in the same service and its fine.Jiggers wear out their reels a lot faster than trollers do, but there is a difference in price and quality.

And buying over sized, is not what I would do either for lots of reasons.
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Originally Posted by Bullshipper View Post
You get what you pay for. The fathoms my friends bought to jig with (read heavy service and frequent use) did not last long. Another fishing buddy I know has a squall in the same service and its fine.Jiggers wear out their reels a lot faster than trollers do, but there is a difference in price and quality.

And buying over sized, is not what I would do either for lots of reasons.
That's surprising to me. I would have considered the Fathom a much better real than the Squall.
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I have Squall 30VSW's. They are really great reels. But I use them for trolling and haven't caught much on them, especially anything to test them. I've been eyeing a fathom 25 size for snapper fishing.

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I've caught a bunch of bluefin on squall 30s, 50s and 16s. Big sharks on 30s. Added 2 fathom 60s to my spread this year. Haven't caught anything above stripers on the 60s though
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The Squall VS series is different than the regular squall lineup. They have the internals of the Penn International Series and a graphite frame. Great reels that can handle up to 60lb test and 80lb test in a bit. Think of them as an upgraded/newer TLD A Series. Heavier than the Fathom-more of a trolling reel. The Fathom is a cast metal frame. The 40 and 60 series are great reels up to 60lb test and can do 80 in a pinch. You can cast or troll with them. The Fathom 40ld2 speed is the rental reel for a couple of the long range boats out of San Diego for their Guadalupe Island Trips. Those reels are abused and they have held up exceptionally well.

I have all of the above reels (along with Penn Torque, Shimano Talicas, Okuma Makaira and Andros, tiburon and accurates). For a budget, both are great reels. They are not internationals. makairas, tiagras, but they are they best bang for the buck and are great reels. If you are fishing for anything short of blue/black marlin, bluefin tuna over 200lbs or yellowfin from a long range boat, you are all set with either one. Pick one up and see which one you like best.

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Old 09-07-2019, 08:46 AM
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I should reference my bad Fathom review to state that the Fathoms that didn't last were their 25's in jigging service, not their 30's, 40, or 60's.
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I ended up getting a couple of Fathom 60 2 speeds and a couple Squall 16 VSWs. The reels are about the same size but the Fathom is 10-12 Oz lighter and allegedly makes more drag.
i am planning to fill both with 60 braid and 60 or 80 mono topshot and then fish them side by side. The squall feels quite a bit more heavy duty.
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Originally Posted by gnuisance View Post
I ended up getting a couple of Fathom 60 2 speeds and a couple Squall 16 VSWs. The reels are about the same size but the Fathom is 10-12 Oz lighter and allegedly makes more drag.
i am planning to fill both with 60 braid and 60 or 80 mono topshot and then fish them side by side. The squall feels quite a bit more heavy duty.

We jig in the winter and fish palaegics in the summer and have gone to mono+ braid combo using the same line for top and bottom fishing.. In the winter the mono is put on first followed by the braid to jig and live bait with. Then we reverse it putting the mono on top to troll with in the summer. Still lots of line as drag tires and stops fish faster than a lot of line.

If you run more that 2/3 of rated drag on lever reels, I believe your bearing life will be short due to the side pressure and maintenance will also increase, again in my experience with other lever drags.
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If you run more that 2/3 of rated drag on lever reels, I believe your bearing life will be short due to the side pressure and maintenance will also increase, again in my experience with other lever drags.
Penn Fathom LD has a thrust bearing, so this should not be an issue.

IMO, both the Fathom and Squall VS are a good value for the features they pack. I can't imagine jigging all day with one of the 2-speed Squalls though.
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