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Old 08-20-2019, 02:03 PM
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I saw a youtube video by Bouncer Smith for making bottom rigs for muttons and grouper where he uses a 3-way swivel and long leader. What caught my attention was when he mentioned that you don't actually want the weight on the bottom. You want it 10ft or so off the bottom. However, I can't find anything like a guide for picking how many ounces of bank sinker per water depth to get near the bottom but not on the bottom.

Anyone have anything like that?

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Hit the bottom, then crank up ?
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Originally Posted by stuL View Post
Hit the bottom, then crank up ?

Yes, but it was mentioned to go as light as possible (only use the weight that is required to get to that depth) and I would like to have a guide. I don't want to use 16 ounces and reel up if 4 ounces is ideal for 50ft or 100ft
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Originally Posted by On the Half Shell View Post
Yes, but it was mentioned to go as light as needed and I would like to have a guide. I don't want to use 16 ounces and reel up when 4 is ideal for 50ft
Its hard to know what to use without knowing how much current you are encountering on that particular day, some days you can get down to 100 feet with 3 ounces other days weve needed over 16 ounces.
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Originally Posted by ljp123 View Post
Its hard to know what to use without knowing how much current you are encountering on that particular day, some days you can get down to 100 feet with 3 ounces other days weve needed over 16 ounces.
Yes, an accurate guide would need to accout for current. I'm looking for out on the reef of the FL Keys so I'm guessing maybe 0.5-1.5 knots?
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Too dependent on current and wind. I always drift a bottom bait when kite fishing the reef and do well on it....

Sometimes I am using 5 oz to stay near the bottom and sometimes 12 oz. This is all between 90-160' of water with 40lb braid as the mainline.
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You can use my app to calculate depth based on your rig, speed, line weight, line length, etc. I would input something like a bucktail with trailer to model a weight + bait rig.
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You can mostly plan your weight size by your line angle. If the line goes straight down you can go lighter. If your line is running out at 45deg angle you need to go heavier etc.

Cant comment on your fishery but for our bottom fishing cut bait charters we recently increased the weight sizes to reduce tangles and issues with people not finding the bottom in current. Catching as many or more fish even though the normal 'wisdom' is to go as light as possible. In heavy currents I have started to go 'overkill' with weights rather than just enough and again catching more fish, and generally larger fish. Always experimenting.
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Originally Posted by TDLewis View Post
You can use my app to calculate depth based on your rig, speed, line weight, line length, etc. I would input something like a bucktail with trailer to model a weight + bait rig.
Which app is that?

This is for small live bait such pinfish, threadfin, pichards, etc in 40 - 150ft on a 30-35' leader.
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Originally Posted by On the Half Shell View Post
Which app is that?

This is for small live bait such pinfish, threadfin, pichards, etc in 40 - 150ft on a 30-35' leader.
The app is called the Troll Master Depth Calculator. It uses a physics based calculation to calculate the curved shape of the line underwater based on speed, weight, drag, etc. It was originally created for trolling but I know some people use it for deepwater drift fishing as well. Please let me know if you have any questions.
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I would just stop. different conditions call for different weights, next "does the weather look ok for me to cross to bimini" I have 200 gallons of gas for a 50 mile run but bought a bladder tank in case of unfavorable conditions that may sneak up etc LOL Just having fun here
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too much thought on this-experience and feel and adjustment are key
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Too much thought into this. Drop a weight down and see if you are holding. Depth current the tides all change the equation.
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Just go fishing, and take along a variety of leads.
it won’t be long before you figure out what’s needed for when and where.
Theres no definitive guide for reasons already mentioned, and that’s part of what makes fishing so appealing to me as a sport, it’s figuring things out on the fly, adjusting to situations as they happen.
Go fishing, have fun!
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Rig two or three different rods with 4, 8, 12oz weights. Then see which ones hold the drift. Remember if you have mono or heavy braid (over 50lbs) as a main line it will create drag and you will need more weight to hold bottom or the drift. For bottom fishing I typically use egg sinkers with one swivel a long mono leader and top shop of 15 yards, no more than 55lb braid main line . I fish 60 to 320ft.

Experiment and enjoy.
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I snapper fish almost exclusively in 60' - 160' of water, everything is rigged with an 8 oz egg when we leave the dock. Some days I have to adjust, some days I don't, some days a 13# Danforth with 30' of chain and a 4:1 scope in 60' of water won't hold bottom and we drink beer and troll for mermaids.

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