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Old 08-13-2019, 03:52 PM
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Hey,

I've been thinking of deploying my own FADS and I have been reading up about them on here and other sites. My question is, how large/strong should the rope be? I plan on using multiple floats that are tied inline
at the surface, anchored in water anywhere from 1200' to 6000' deep. I am leaning towards using 3/8" polypro 3 strand rope rated at 3700 lbs breaking strength. Is this overkill? Obviously I want it to last as long as possible
so that was my thinking on using said rope. Any advice would be appreciated.

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Old 08-13-2019, 04:03 PM
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Be careful as that’s very illegal. But I would look into some 1/4” cable or something. You can buy it for fairly cheap
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Old 08-13-2019, 04:05 PM
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Please read this first so you dont waste your time or money

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Old 08-13-2019, 09:50 PM
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I swear I learn something new here everyday. This is a thing? It basically sounds like you’re intentionally sinking ocean trash to suspend an under-the-surface fish haven that may or may not stay where you put it, last longer than one hurricane season, entangle/entrap unintended sea critters, or possibly foul props. There’s no way this is legal, and it sounds expensive as hell.
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Old 08-14-2019, 03:22 AM
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I'm not going to mince words here... I hope you get caught if you try this.
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i hope I catch you and get the numbers. Other than that, I hope no one finds it!
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anyone i know that have invested good time and money into any fad it's been gone the next time they went back. Whether it was a huge freighter ran it over or the anchor and line just wasn't big enough don't waste your money. Mother nature is just way to power.
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Old 08-14-2019, 12:17 PM
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anyone i know that have invested good time and money into any fad it's been gone the next time they went back. Whether it was a huge freighter ran it over or the anchor and line just wasn't big enough don't waste your money. Mother nature is just way to power.
There a lot of "private" fads in the Caribbean that charter boats put in. Most seem to last. Many are non-surface fads so ships can't hit them and people can't find them. From what I hear thr FAD's that last are pretty expensive to make.

Looks like the OP is from Hawaii so it might be a little more wild west out there like it is in the Caribbean.
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Old 08-14-2019, 01:14 PM
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Do a search on here for fads their was a long running post here that I saw about two weeks ago with about 12 pages lots of good information
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Old 08-14-2019, 04:58 PM
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Thanks for both the negative and positive input!

It is illegal but you can do it legally by going thru the proper agencies, I'll leave it at that. I was just trying to get some opinions on best materials (rope etc.) to use so it would last longer. It also can be expensive, but 1 or 2 good days of fishing the buoy would pay it off!!
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Old 08-15-2019, 03:36 PM
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3/8 poly chain and good quality swivels between each section of rope. I beam makes a good weight so I have heard
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Old 08-15-2019, 03:56 PM
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If legal and safe, I think we all agree it would be fun to play around with.The ones we've stumbled across over the years seemed to hold mani and triple tail mostly.
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I don't think rope would hold up. We use 1/2 cable here and they last a while but not forever.
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Old 08-18-2019, 09:43 AM
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Hey,

I've been thinking of deploying my own FADS and I have been reading up about them on here and other sites. My question is, how large/strong should the rope be? I plan on using multiple floats that are tied inline
at the surface, anchored in water anywhere from 1200' to 6000' deep. I am leaning towards using 3/8" polypro 3 strand rope rated at 3700 lbs breaking strength. Is this overkill? Obviously I want it to last as long as possible
so that was my thinking on using said rope. Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks
3/8' poly rope is too small. Its not the breaking strength its the abrasion resistance. Cable is good but same issue, kinking and then breaking at the turns. As the FAD material and rope/cable gets heavier and heavier with marine growth your flotation starts to loose effectiveness. BTW, some of these freighters are running 35 to 39' drafts. A mile of cable wrapped around a prop shaft is going to really piss someone off and perhaps endanger shipping.

If you want to give this a try then consider using materials that will deteriorate eventually and not pose a hazard. Palm Fronds bundled together work well and have a relatively short life span. If you need more flotation then add a cheap pool noodle in the center of the bundles. Buy cheap 1/2" manila rope and anchor with concrete or steel weights. This won't last long but you can get several months out of it in relatively shallow depths.

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Old 08-20-2019, 12:11 AM
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Built one several years ago, got three guys to put up $1000 each, but would probably cost twice that now.
it worked quite well, but disappeared after the first big north swell of the season.
Hawaii has extreme current and depth to deal with, so half assed efforts are immediate failures.
The biggest problem with the state operated fads is cutoffs from wayward super braid lines.



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Old 08-20-2019, 04:48 AM
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Down in the DR they fish FADS all the time. Not sure how they are built but the fishing is incredible. We went 3 for 3 on White Marlin and 2/3 on Blue. Was insane.
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