Go Back  The Hull Truth - Boating and Fishing Forum > BOATING FORUMS > SportFishing and Charters Forum
Reload this Page >

Line creep with planer and when people say they put strain on the reel... question

Notices

Line creep with planer and when people say they put strain on the reel... question

Old 08-11-2019, 07:07 PM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Delray Beach, FL
Posts: 563
Default Line creep with planer and when people say they put strain on the reel... question

2 things... does line creep when pulling a planer cause anymore wear on the reel than giving it a little more drag to keep it still (I like to keep as little drag as possible to keep the planer still since its already a ton of drag) and when people say pulling a planer stresses your gear are they referring to the rod or real in particular or just everything? I always assumed it was the drag system and am looking for another combo and was thinking about going with something with more drag so I am not pushing what I have to the limits (I assume a #8 planer takes around 20+lb of drag?)
taymag is offline  
Old 08-11-2019, 07:13 PM
  #2  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Boca Raton
Posts: 1,579
Default

A bit of line creep can be normal when turning, or if weeds are stacking up on the planer it's a dead give away. Rod holder gets a lot of stress. What kind of reels are you using? I use a 2 speed 20/50 and it's up to the task, but the TLD25's and others on the boat wouldn't last with that duty.
jheiii is offline  
Old 08-11-2019, 07:20 PM
  #3  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Delray Beach, FL
Posts: 563
Default

Originally Posted by jheiii View Post
A bit of line creep can be normal when turning, or if weeds are stacking up on the planer it's a dead give away. Rod holder gets a lot of stress. What kind of reels are you using? I use a 2 speed 20/50 and it's up to the task, but the TLD25's and others on the boat wouldn't last with that duty.
I use 30VSW 2 SPEED 32# DRAG on my planer or weight setups
taymag is offline  
Old 08-11-2019, 07:29 PM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location:
Posts: 865
Default

I have a couple Star Rods with all roller guides and swivel tip, Stuart straight butts with Senator 9/0’s, 65lb braid, exclusively for planer trolling. Next step is to put bridles on each of them. They are great for locking down the star drag to stop the creep.
Smoke n Mirrors is offline  
Old 08-11-2019, 09:01 PM
  #5  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 288
Default

I let mine creep slowly for the most part. I figure it’s kinda like working the water somewhat.
tgrady is offline  
Old 08-12-2019, 05:29 AM
  #6  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: sarasota
Posts: 3,565
Default

All different size planers..

what number are are you pulling? And how fast do you troll...

there is a reason the high speed wahoo guys use what they do..

gumpire is offline  
Old 08-12-2019, 05:40 AM
  #7  
Admirals ClubCaptains Club Member Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Beaufort North Carolina
Posts: 3,853
Default

I don't let mine creep, I get busy doing something else and before I know it I've got out more line than I want to wind in. I do think the rod holder is the stress point , I have bedded backing plates on mine. The bearings in the reel setting under load would be the concern but a good built reel it shouldn't be a problem .
Ken T is offline  
Old 08-12-2019, 07:04 AM
  #8  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: ditch, boynton
Posts: 438
Default

The line creeping is no big deal. As far as putting strain on your stuff, planer fishing def will wear on your gear. Most reels will never be stressed for 1 minute the way a planer reel is stressed for hours on end. Also the rod holders get a lot of strain as mentioned above. The rubber inserts on mine are coming out.
flfJack is offline  
Old 08-12-2019, 12:14 PM
  #9  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Posts: 239
Default

Originally Posted by jheiii View Post
A bit of line creep can be normal when turning, or if weeds are stacking up on the planer it's a dead give away. Rod holder gets a lot of stress. What kind of reels are you using? I use a 2 speed 20/50 and it's up to the task, but the TLD25's and others on the boat wouldn't last with that duty.
My tld 15s troll a planer better than my brand new 25s. Trolling just a small planer with a spoon for spanish. The 25s work great trolling surface rigs though.

Edit, if you want to use smaller reels with big planers there is a way you can rig them up on separate lines to keep all that drag on say a hand line and not you reel.
Jon A Mason is online now  
Old 08-13-2019, 06:38 AM
  #10  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2019
Location: We live on our sailboat--where ever that is!
Posts: 123
Default

Assuming the rod is a reasonable size, there is no significant ”wear” on reel and rod when trolling a heavy load like a planer. Nothing is moving. A poorly mounted rod holder might come to grief of course, and lots of factory installed rod holders are pretty poorly mounted.

Reel drags and and bearings fail from corrosion, lack of maintenance or heat generated during high speed operation. Resisting a steady, static load they can do all day, every day.

Don't worry about it.
thefishingsailor is offline  
Old 08-15-2019, 03:40 AM
  #11  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
THT sponsor
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Pompano Beach, FL
Posts: 958
Default

This is a personal preference thing.

I put my planers down on a hand line tied to a cleat. I connect the rod line via a cigar swivel and a rubber band that breaks away on a strike. Planer goes down once and gets retrieved when you are done or need to pick up to move.

The downside is that it catches a ton of weeds and you are pulling up a huge pile. This is bad in S FL right now.
mintregila is offline  
Old 08-15-2019, 10:24 AM
  #12  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Palm Beach County
Posts: 9,434
Default

I had some internationals that had the perfect amount of creep. IMO its ok
WPBTH is offline  
Old Yesterday, 09:08 AM
  #13  
Admirals ClubCaptains Club Member Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Beaufort North Carolina
Posts: 3,853
Default

just wondering, why would you want a reel to creep ?
Ken T is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread