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Withrop Terminator Butt Black Coating Damage

Old 07-29-2019, 10:41 AM
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Default Withrop Terminator Butt Black Coating Damage

I bought brand new Calstar Custom rods with Winthrop Black Terminator butts. 2 rides out and the coating on the black butts are damaged and one of the butts seems to have a gouge that is deep and sharp in it despite being in rubber coated rod holders for the 2 rides. Of course things get worn and they are tools of the trade, but I have no issues like with any of my black coated aftco butts or really any of my butts on any rods.

The durability of this coating and the butts themselves seem to be questionable if I am already seeing these issues and wondering if anyone else has had similar experiences with their Black Terminators?

Not happy with them at all to say the least...
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Old 07-29-2019, 10:47 AM
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Did the rubber in the rod holder move around?
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Old 07-29-2019, 10:54 AM
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So call them

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Old 07-29-2019, 11:55 AM
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So call them

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Yeah thanks I have their number and would just go back to my tackle shop to deal with them too if it is infact a warranty issue, but before I went down that road I was trying to figure out if this is something anyone else is experiencing as the Winthrop terminators seem to be very popular.
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Originally Posted by Gatorzone19 View Post
Did the rubber in the rod holder move around?
No it is pretty snugly fit in there. Could that be a reason if they are moving around?
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Old 07-29-2019, 12:11 PM
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I've never seen any wear on one.. The ones we've used get banged around pretty good trolling diving plugs for big eyes. Does it look to you like damage from a rod holder?
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I've never seen any wear on one.. The ones we've used get banged around pretty good trolling diving plugs for big eyes. Does it look to you like damage from a rod holder?
The light scuffs around the area where it touches the top of the holder certainly does and they are cosmetic but the one that is in the middle of the butt that i am describing as a gouge would have happened middle of the rod holder so that is a mystery to me.

Even if these were all causes from the rod holders, I don't see these lasting very long if this is what is happening to the finish after two short trips trolling bars that were not even hit is the concern.
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Having a complete set of these I don't think they're quite up to par in the aluminum/coating section. I love their design but am pretty discouraged about the quality. My Stuart butts that are 6? years old are in better shape than my less than 1 year old Winthrops. One thing I thought may be an issue is that when I rinse them off after fishing I leave them in the rod holders to dry and thought it could be a stainless/aluminum/salt thing but I also did the same thing to all my other rods when I had the Stuart butts.
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Having a complete set of these I don't think they're quite up to par in the aluminum/coating section. I love their design but am pretty discouraged about the quality. My Stuart butts that are 6? years old are in better shape than my less than 1 year old Winthrops. One thing I thought may be an issue is that when I rinse them off after fishing I leave them in the rod holders to dry and thought it could be a stainless/aluminum/salt thing but I also did the same thing to all my other rods when I had the Stuart butts.
Sorry to hear but thanks for sharing so I know this is not just me. I am going to contact Winthrop to speak to them directly on this because spending the money you do on these butts they should hold up more than I am seeing IMO. I will share some pics when I am back at the boat this weekend. Do you have pictures of what yours look like?
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I don’t sea a gouge as being a coating failure. To me a gouge would mean some of the parent metal is missing.

Are they anodized, or powder coated? I’ve never seen one but I’m curious.
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Let me start by saying Winthrop has received these photos and are reviewing them and have said they will honor their lifetime warranty. These rods were in rod holders with rubber inserts which is why I am most concerned about them after only 2 boat rides with no hookups yet. The gouge in the middle of the butt is the most alarming as it is sharp and looks like the aluminum and the coating flaked off together in a weak point.



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I’d be more concerned about 2 boat rides and no hook ups....

That bottom pic is odd though
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Originally Posted by Lazy Bones View Post
I’d be more concerned about 2 boat rides and no hook ups....

That bottom pic is odd though
Hooked up just not on these two new rods in question yet.. Yes the bottom picture is the most concerning.
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Originally Posted by ghosts84 View Post
Hooked up just not on these two new rods in question yet.. Yes the bottom picture is the most concerning.
Looks to be when you insert the rod into the holder with a rough edge.
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You have to remember..it is not just a one time insert into rod holder...with wave periods of 6 seconds..the rod could be banging in the rod holder 600 times an hour.. I am guessing by your rod choice and your location you are running at least 3 hours out and back..that would mean 6 hours and 3600 wave hits...if your rod holder is just the slightest scuffed up, your rod holder is doing a lot of damage. The big nick looks like it is from one of your buddies putting the rod in the holder clumsily.

I will say..that big nick looks like it's soft aluminum. Not matter how your rod butt is handled..that should not happen.

Change out all your rod holders. You might find rod holders in the tower, rocket launcher, helm seat maybe the culprits.
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Old 08-06-2019, 10:42 PM
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^^^ This.

That’s not coating failure. Somewhere, somehow that’s damage from not being properly protected. Be it in transport or fishing rod holders there’s a problem somewhere.

On a side note I keep all of my rod butts and reels silver. It isn’t any harder to scratch but it sure looks a lot better once things get dinged up a bit.
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Originally Posted by FishHarder View Post
You have to remember..it is not just a one time insert into rod holder...with wave periods of 6 seconds..the rod could be banging in the rod holder 600 times an hour.. I am guessing by your rod choice and your location you are running at least 3 hours out and back..that would mean 6 hours and 3600 wave hits...if your rod holder is just the slightest scuffed up, your rod holder is doing a lot of damage. The big nick looks like it is from one of your buddies putting the rod in the holder clumsily.

I will say..that big nick looks like it's soft aluminum. Not matter how your rod butt is handled..that should not happen.

Change out all your rod holders. You might find rod holders in the tower, rocket launcher, helm seat maybe the culprits.
I certainly can't say I disagree with anything you've said. I have rubber inserts in the holders so to see this type of wear is disappointing for a product marketed by Winthrop as "Custom Made to Withstand the Extreme". As you said the big gash is the most concerning for me as the other marks are just aesthetic and for that gash to happen from going in and out of a rubber rod holder is what ultimately got me making this post asking if others had any feedback. I guess we will see how Winthrop stands behind the gashed aluminum.

Thanks for all the responses.
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