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Old 07-05-2019, 02:29 PM
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You can certainly do it right off the reel, or horizontally off your rod, or vertically off your rod. They will all be so close to the same number your scale will not be able to tell the difference. Before you argue with that, TRY IT and see.

If your rod guides actually add measurable friction under a static load like this, you have WAY bigger problems than what number you set your drag to on a scale.

So many people over-think this and come to crazy conclusions in the total absence of real data other than what they imagine to be true.

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Old 07-05-2019, 02:41 PM
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There certainly is a difference in a straight line pull and a bent rod pull. Watch the video.

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Originally Posted by thefishingsailor View Post
You can certainly do it right off the reel, or horizontally off your rod, or vertically off your rod. They will all be so close to the same number your scale will not be able to tell the difference. Before you argue with that, TRY IT and see.

If your rod guides actually add measurable friction under a static load like this, you have WAY bigger problems than what number you set your drag to on a scale.

So many people over-think this and come to crazy conclusions in the total absence of real data other than what they imagine to be true.

"If you don't think too good, don't think too much."
What a demeaning comment..... hope you feel better about yourself after posting that.

Maybe YOU should "try it and see"!?!?!?!?

He literally tested it in that video and there was a significant difference. I've tested it and there's a significant difference.

And here you are, preaching about people over thinking stuff while offering incorrect information, and doing so in a condescending manner, lol. Oh yeah, you're the guy with the hollow core thread that thought you were only guy who tests their gear..... nice
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There's a significant difference between drag off a ring-guide rod and a roller rod, too. Which makes sense if you think about it. The big friction contributor is the tip guide where the line comes off at the steepest angle.

Now I mention it, the drag off the rod (at least with ring guides) is probably different with wet line versus dry. So do you want to set your drag for the initial strike, or for fighting the fish? Decisions decisions.
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Originally Posted by hoverducky View Post

Now I mention it, the drag off the rod (at least with ring guides) is probably different with wet line versus dry.
Nope,
I just tested it.
Wet line or dry. No difference.
There was a difference between a cold drag and a warmed up drag.
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The wet/dry thing is good to know, thanks. Mono and ring guides?
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Originally Posted by hoverducky View Post
The wet/dry thing is good to know, thanks. Mono and ring guides?
Yes
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Old 07-06-2019, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by hoverducky View Post
There's a significant difference between drag off a ring-guide rod and a roller rod, too. Which makes sense if you think about it. The big friction contributor is the tip guide where the line comes off at the steepest angle.

Now I mention it, the drag off the rod (at least with ring guides) is probably different with wet line versus dry. So do you want to set your drag for the initial strike, or for fighting the fish? Decisions decisions.
You can use tape and a scale it off to mark different drag settings like this . The sharpie on the Avet's wears off quick






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Old 07-07-2019, 04:24 PM
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The TLD wiill take about 13 lbs of drag. More than that, you will start cracking end plates.

So the the whole point of setting drags is to prevent breaking lightweight plastic or overstretching, thinning, and weakening your monofilament polymer.

If you go over 1/3 the break test of the line, you will over stretch it and make it weaker.

Now, the TLD25 has a very smooth carefree drag. How tight you fish it depends on what you are pulling when trolling so that the lure has pull on it to set the hook. This will vary with hook size, trolling speed, how much bone the mouth of your fish has, etc, but this is accomplished by setting up the trolling lure in your spread, and then pulling line off with you hand, not a scale, and common sense is your friend here if you have any. I usually go fairly light using sharp hooks at faster speeds, and the rest is pretty obvious.

When fighting the fish, a lighter drag helps on a fish with a lot of energy and you can tighten the drag with the lever as he tires if you want to bring him in faster. Again thats up to you and not some other expert. If you previously set it with a scale, you will not have to worry about busting your reel or overstretching your line, but the rest is feel, and that is what fishing is all about. Remeber, a fish just drag 100 yds through the water is gonna tire himself out, and you've got 600 so as long as its deep you do have a big advantage.

Using a jug is perfectly ok on salt water lines as there is already a large fudge factor built into the 1/3 rule of thumb. Would I use a jug on 1 /2 -10 lb mono, no, but for 15 -200 lb line, I personally see no problem, unless your bored and also want to factor in the price of cheese in Amsterdam into this discussion.

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I was bored. So I checked.
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Who pushed your button ? LOL
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