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Old 06-05-2019, 02:52 AM
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How does this guy do all this shit and is released on $620??


Something doesn't add up!

My neighbor had an undersized grouper (1/4") last season and paid $500!
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Old 06-05-2019, 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 20biminitwist View Post
Most likely was a shared charter just to cover expenses.

As said above, you would have no chance if I lost my marbles getting to the bridge while I am armed up top.

A elevated armed position against an unarmed force is a no Brainer. Good thing the guy didn't have a tuna tower.

This, all joking aside may be the most bizarre thing I have heard in a while concerning a 'legal" charter boat.

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man, that really is your soap box isn't it? You have a personal interest in this topic I see. It hits home with you for some reason.

Did I read the text correctly that this entire situation started by the captain refusing the 15 year old a beer? Or did the 15 year old refuse to bring the Captain a beer?
If the former, I wouldn't let a 15 year old drink alcohol anywhere near me: boat or land.

Furthermore, It is a known standard in my fishing circle, no drugs on any of our boats: consequences are too high. Also, no getting inebriated with alchohol: it ruins everyones day. I personally don't drink alchohol: land or sea. It just doesn't make me feel productive or happy. I feel for this Captain. His life as he knew is over. Clearly, he had some emotional, drug/ alcohol induced moments of hyper lack of control. But, as stated, there are two sides to every story. I can only believe the paying customers hyperbolized the account somewhat to validate their position.
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Old 06-05-2019, 05:20 AM
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Sounds to me like the uncle sent the boy to go get a beer out of the captains cooler and the captain wasn't going to let his customers drink his beer. Either way there will be more charges filed after the Coast Guard gets done. Sounds like they got back at 3 in the morning. Crazy story for sure, would be interesting to hear the mates account, speaking of where was the mate during all of this???
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Old 06-05-2019, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by sydngoose View Post
man, that really is your soap box isn't it? You have a personal interest in this topic I see. It hits home with you for some reason.

Did I read the text correctly that this entire situation started by the captain refusing the 15 year old a beer? Or did the 15 year old refuse to bring the Captain a beer?
If the former, I wouldn't let a 15 year old drink alcohol anywhere near me: boat or land.

Furthermore, It is a known standard in my fishing circle, no drugs on any of our boats: consequences are too high. Also, no getting inebriated with alchohol: it ruins everyones day. I personally don't drink alchohol: land or sea. It just doesn't make me feel productive or happy. I feel for this Captain. His life as he knew is over. Clearly, he had some emotional, drug/ alcohol induced moments of hyper lack of control. But, as stated, there are two sides to every story. I can only believe the paying customers hyperbolized the account somewhat to validate their position.
Yea, it hits home and is in my wheelhouse.

I have a lot of time and money invested in my charter business.

I hold the license, federal permits for the Atlantic and GOM. Also belong to a required random drug testing program. CPR certified.
Carry for hire liability insurance to protect myself and my passengers.

All legal/responsible charter boat operators are doing the same.

It is not good for the industry when crap like this happens. There are way to many folks playing the game to skirt the law. They are turning up the heat on these shady operators and I'm glad. Making cases weekly in the past year.

You want to pay 2K to have your families lives put at risk from some drunken drugged up Captain that could easily put you in danger without having to shoot you. I don't know what happened with this guy but I will guarantee that a formal USCG investigation is coming.

And, I don't feel bad for this guy one bit.
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Old 06-05-2019, 06:25 AM
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A Florida Man......................

My wife a native Floridian heard story..."A Florida man.......was drinking and boating..." and had a good laugh!!


The whole story sounds like BS from top to bottom. Except his behavior once in police custody. Which kind of adds credence to the charters' stories.
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Old 06-05-2019, 06:31 AM
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I'm surprised he wasn't charged with kidnapping also since he basically held the customers hostage.
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Old 06-05-2019, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Re-Bait View Post
A Florida Man......................

My wife a native Floridian heard story..."A Florida man.......was drinking and boating..." and had a good laugh!!


The whole story sounds like BS from top to bottom. Except his behavior once in police custody. Which kind of adds credence to the charters' stories.

Behavior once in custody, kind of an issue but I am surprised how everyone assumes that the captain is nuts and the charter customers are telling 100% truth.

Could also be drunk passengers get get out of hand and attempt mutiny.
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Old 06-05-2019, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Mpellet View Post



Behavior once in custody, kind of an issue but I am surprised how everyone assumes that the captain is nuts and the charter customers are telling 100% truth.

Could also be drunk passengers get get out of hand and attempt mutiny.
Ain't no telling but to keep them out 17 hours on a 12 hour trip sounds a little fishy to me. Failure to submit to a breath test is not a very good indication either. The USCG investigation will require a drug test. Failure to comply will not end well for the Captain.
There may be other charges brought after the investigation is completed and turned over to the DA.
I can think of several serious charges that may be forthcoming.
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Old 06-05-2019, 06:58 AM
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Maybe I watch too many TV shows but can’t they just swab the captain for gun shot residue?
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Originally Posted by Mpellet View Post



Behavior once in custody, kind of an issue but I am surprised how everyone assumes that the captain is nuts and the charter customers are telling 100% truth.

Could also be drunk passengers get get out of hand and attempt mutiny.
I get what you are saying but there is no logical explanation for the captain not returning to the dock till 3am and the police would not have arrested him for BUI if he was not under the influence.
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Old 06-05-2019, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Mpellet View Post



Behavior once in custody, kind of an issue but I am surprised how everyone assumes that the captain is nuts and the charter customers are telling 100% truth.

Could also be drunk passengers get get out of hand and attempt mutiny.
So you have drunk passengers getting out of hand and you choose to drive in circles and extend the trip 5 more hours?

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Originally Posted by lurker25 View Post
I get what you are saying but there is no logical explanation for the captain not returning to the dock till 3am and the police would not have arrested him for BUI if he was not under the influence.

I don’t disagree but am always VERY skeptical of the accuracy of what the media reports and try to refrain from crucifixion based on headlines....
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Old 06-05-2019, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Mpellet View Post



I don’t disagree but am always VERY skeptical of the accuracy of what the media reports and try to refrain from crucifixion based on headlines....
The investigation is ongoing. The media only knows he was arrested for BUI and resisting arrest.

What does accuracy have to do with the news reporting these days?
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Old 06-05-2019, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Mpellet View Post



I don’t disagree but am always VERY skeptical of the accuracy of what the media reports and try to refrain from crucifixion based on headlines....
Definitely can't disagree with you there!!
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Old 06-05-2019, 08:15 AM
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As a sober, coherent captain, you should be able to handle any situation that your charter guests might put you in. I agree, this story sounds very one sided. The captain was drinking, had a gun, was 5 hours late in returning to the dock so something abnormal was going on.

If the charter guests had put the capt and mate in some sort of harms way, the captain has plenty of tools at his disposal to alert the authorities. Heading back in when problems started would have been my first choice. If things escalated, radio CG, EPIRB deployment, DCS,etc. are all options available.

Appears Captain decided on none of these so the story from the guests makes some sense.

Surely more to follow on this!
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Old 06-05-2019, 08:34 AM
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Dumb question but how many charter captains would carry a gun on board? Is that even legal?
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Old 06-05-2019, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by meritmat View Post
Dumb question but how many charter captains would carry a gun on board? Is that even legal?
I don't see why it would not be legal to carry a firearm on your boat unless for some reason like being on probation.
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Old 06-05-2019, 09:02 AM
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Any chance we can get the numbers of their snapper spots?
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Old 06-05-2019, 09:04 AM
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https://www.wfla.com/news/sarasota-c...ive/2053138800

Interview with the individuals on the Charter etc in this link.
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Old 06-05-2019, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by GaryDoug View Post
" He said he saw Bailey smoking a “joint,”" .....Reefer madness strikes again !!!!!!


You guys can tell him what you think here, and what is the reference to 55 (boat length?)
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Weird, The FAQ had no mention about hostage situation or drunken Captain?

He is Fd eitherway, but I got a feeling there is more to this story especially with the whole 15 year old getting a beer from the captain.

However any way you look at it the captain Fd up to the nth degree by drinking and bringing the gun out.
His captain career is over unless he gets advice from Mark Conner or read his book on how to rebrand yourself as Convicted Boat Thief to a boat Broker in 10 steps or less.

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