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Old 05-25-2019, 11:03 AM
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Default Does wireline even do anything?

I have a couple of wireline rigs I use for wahoo but I'm beginning to wonder if there are any upsides to it compared to braid. It's more expensive, harder to handle, etc
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It sinks.
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When you're trolling?
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Originally Posted by VanW View Post
When you're trolling?
Yes
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Originally Posted by VanW View Post
When you're trolling?
Yes
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I guess I mean when you're trolling and 8 knots and above? I understand it will sink going slow.
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Originally Posted by VanW View Post
I guess I mean when you're trolling and 8 knots and above? I understand it will sink going slow.
Again, yes......

I have trolled up to 22 kts with wire line outfits...... Plugs that normally skip and bounce on the surface at up to those speeds will stay in the water. At any speed, using wire requires smaller or no trolling weights depending on speed and current.
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We catch lots of wahoo on wire line. It is a pain because you have yo avoid kinks.
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My wireline shorts are the most deadly outfits in my arsenal.....Extremely popular in the Caribbean islands....The Bahamas tournaments used to cap you out with 2 wireline outfits in your spread.....Wire gives you depth and no need for more than 3lb trolling sinkers on the hst.

We used to use straight monel on old 10/0 or 12/0 Senators with the s.s spools.....But times have changed.....Now, we use 110' of monel on one short and 160' on the other short....that's enough for the splice to be about 2 rotations on the spool...thus, setting my shorts at 100' and 150' in my spread

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Shorty rods setup for wire line are the best wahoo weapon out there.
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Everyone that knows how to do it, talks about how effective it is, but no one ever talks about how to do it.
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Originally Posted by popeyeiii View Post
Everyone that knows how to do it, talks about how effective it is, but no one ever talks about how to do it.

its a a skill that takes time to master. Trial and error. Once you master it there is NO better method of putting meat in the boat. It isnít the most FUN way to fish but often times it is the MOST successful.
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I have been considering putting together a wireline rod to run for wahoo as well but canít figure how wire would be that much more effective than braid. How much deeper does it run? Is it really as effective as people believe it to be or are they just proponents of wire because it was that much more effective than mono when those were the two real options?
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Originally Posted by Rapchizzle View Post
I have been considering putting together a wireline rod to run for wahoo as well but canít figure how wire would be that much more effective than braid. How much deeper does it run? Is it really as effective as people believe it to be or are they just proponents of wire because it was that much more effective than mono when those were the two real options?

run them side by side a few times and then report back.
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Originally Posted by Wahooking View Post
We used to use straight monel on old 10/0 or 12/0 Senators with the s.s spools.....But times have changed.....Now, we use 110' of monel on one short and 160' on the other short....that's enough for the splice to be about 2 rotations on the spool...thus, setting my shorts at 100' and 150' in my spread
Do you splice to Braid or Mono?
How do you do the splice?
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Originally Posted by Gone Nuts View Post
Do you splice to Braid or Mono?
How do you do the splice?
I use a haywire twist to put a loop in the wire, a bimini twist to put a loop in the braid, and then cats paw them together.

I will add that wire has been my goto for wahoo. I troll from a sailboat, so not so fast, 7-8 tops. But the extra depth really matters.

80lb monel wire with Yo-zuri Bonita, no extra weight.
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Also works up north on stripers w spoons.
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Originally Posted by Gone Nuts View Post
Do you splice to Braid or Mono?
How do you do the splice?
hollowcore line , splice 6í or so of the monel up in the hollowcore , I run 110# monel spliced into 200# hollowcore . You should be able to find a video on YouTube on how to splice mono into HC, just use this method for the wire . Load your reel with HC and put however much wire you want on top . If you want to run 150í of wire while trolling then splice 170í of wire on , that will give a few wraps of monel on the reel while your pulling . Haywire snap swivel to the end . It is a pain to deal with and pain to splice it .I almost threw the whole outfit out the window the first time I spliced . But if Iím highspeed wahoo trolling Iím gonna have my 2 wirelines out . Actually have to splice new wire on one of mine now because I got them both tangled and got a kink in one . Not looking forward to doing it but itís worth the trouble if you want to target wahoo.
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If the purpose of the wire is to add depth, what’s the difference between running a wire line with 3lbs of lead vs. 100lb braid with 5lbs of lead? There must be more to it than just depth.
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Originally Posted by laythewood View Post
If the purpose of the wire is to add depth, whatís the difference between running a wire line with 3lbs of lead vs. 100lb braid with 5lbs of lead? There must be more to it than just depth.
Usually, when I am trolling for wahoo with 80lb wire, I am not using any weight, but I then tend to troll slower than most. So the difference in not 3 vs 5, but rather 0 vs 3lb. And I can troll short, and still get the depth I am looking for. Since all my fishing is stand up, I never use 100lb line. 50 max. My arms can't pull any harder! The extra advantage is that I get deeper with lighter weights than if I was using 100lb line.

It's really hard KNOWING how deep your lure is no matter what your rig. All I know for sure is I catch more wahoo with the wire outfit than with braid. It is also very rare that I catch anything else on the wire outfit trolling in the open ocean. Wahoo is so good on the table, I am happy to give a place in our spread to the "wahoo only" wire line.




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